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Re:Update on StoreKit External Entitlement for dating apps by silvestrov on Wednesday March 30, 2022 @05:15PM (#30860851)
> must limit its use to the app in the Netherlands storefront

Apple has still not learnt the lesson. EU will see this as another provocation by Apple and the US is going the same way.

Governments are losing patience with Apple.

Re:Update on StoreKit External Entitlement for dating apps by gizmodo59 on Wednesday March 30, 2022 @05:39PM (#30861127)
I will never subscribe to services for the most part if they don’t provide a way via Apple. I’m sorry but I don’t want to email, call someone, answer hundred questions of why I want to unsubscribe etc. I want a single click unsubscribe with no questions asked. A very handful of companies do this. If they earn my trust then I will, until then I prefer to do it via Apple.
Re:Update on StoreKit External Entitlement for dating apps by jeroenhd on Thursday March 31, 2022 @02:22AM (#30864377)
EU regulation states that digitally purchased subscriptions must be able to be cancelled digitally.

There is also nothing in the law that prevents developers from asking a higher price for Apple's payment system if that's what you prefer. If you want to pay the additional 25% for your convenience, then you're free to do so. Apple is the one taking they freedom away from you in this draft, adding a rule that developers can no longer use Apple Pay if they choose for an alternative payment provider.

Apple is free to not handle payments for an app if they don't want to, but if you're mad as a user, be mad at Apple. I think everyone agrees that there's a real benefit to Apple Pay, and if you're willing to pay for that benefit you definitely should.

Re:Update on StoreKit External Entitlement for dating apps by hallway_monitor on Wednesday March 30, 2022 @05:44PM (#30861191)
PayPal has been doing this for years. In fact just last week I unsubscribed from something with one click on the PayPal site.
Re:Update on StoreKit External Entitlement for dating apps by jbverschoor on Wednesday March 30, 2022 @06:11PM (#30861451)
Yeah but then your account gets frozen for no reason
Re:Update on StoreKit External Entitlement for dating apps by toyg on Thursday March 31, 2022 @03:25AM (#30864715)
The point is that any payment processor can do the same thing, no Apple needed. And indeed that's what the new EU regulation will soon require.
Re:Update on StoreKit External Entitlement for dating apps by jbverschoor on Thursday March 31, 2022 @04:39AM (#30865086)
Ture, but PayPal is notorious about this. So yeah, as a consumer, I like paypal. As a merchant, I'd never touch it
Re:Update on StoreKit External Entitlement for dating apps by mmastrac on Wednesday March 30, 2022 @05:51PM (#30861267)
Charging back a single bad actor doesn't get your Apple/Steam/Google account banned, though.
Re:Update on StoreKit External Entitlement for dating apps by nicoburns on Wednesday March 30, 2022 @06:17PM (#30861503)
Apple could almost certainly enforce apps offering unsubscribe functionality though a standard interface without forcing them to use their payment processing.
Re:Update on StoreKit External Entitlement for dating apps by spideymans on Wednesday March 30, 2022 @06:29PM (#30861623)
That's only true so long as Apple can maintain their App Store monopoly.
Re:Update on StoreKit External Entitlement for dating apps by yunohn on Thursday March 31, 2022 @02:43AM (#30864475)
Do you use IAPs purely for subscriptions? Do other usecases for IAPs not matter?
Re:Update on StoreKit External Entitlement for dating apps by vineyardmike on Thursday March 31, 2022 @03:49AM (#30864845)
Europe needs to chill with the poorly written but well intended regulation before we bifurcate the internet into another group. We already have the open-internet, the Chinese internet, and soon we're going to have the European internet.