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Re:Majority in Japan backs nuclear power for first time sinc... by systemvoltage on Monday March 28, 2022 @12:11PM (#30832051)
I don’t understand what you mean by “arrive for free”. We have to capture it. It is not free of any externalities.
Re:Majority in Japan backs nuclear power for first time sinc... by BolexNOLA on Monday March 28, 2022 @12:13PM (#30832074)
You don’t have to produce/extract/manufacture anything to make the wind blow or the sun shine. We capture them as they are.

Edit: let’s see how many people will continue to ignore other comments to get the same point in I guess.

Re:Majority in Japan backs nuclear power for first time sinc... by codelord on Monday March 28, 2022 @12:25PM (#30832224)
Why is that an important difference? To capture wind and solar you have to build turbines and solar panels which aren't free. You also have to have batteries to store them because of seasonal nature of these sources. You also need to transmit the energy thousands of miles through electrical grid because these sources of energy are limited to certain areas. Building the electrical grid itself just needs cutting out millions of more trees. So overall, the environmental impact of going full solar/wind would be worse than a combination of solar, wind, nuclear, and even maybe natural gas.
Re:Majority in Japan backs nuclear power for first time sinc... by BolexNOLA on Monday March 28, 2022 @12:28PM (#30832255)
No one is denying you need those things. We’re talking about a specific step that doesn’t exist for solar/wind akin to being able to drink water you find vs. having to make it clean.
Re:Majority in Japan backs nuclear power for first time sinc... by codelord on Monday March 28, 2022 @12:29PM (#30832268)
I understand what you are saying, and I'm saying it's a pointless argument which doesn't add any value to the discussion.
Re:Majority in Japan backs nuclear power for first time sinc... by BolexNOLA on Monday March 28, 2022 @12:30PM (#30832278)
Duly noted.
Re:Majority in Japan backs nuclear power for first time sinc... by appletrotter on Monday March 28, 2022 @12:20PM (#30832159)
You don't have to produce/extract/manufacture anything to make the ocean hold uranium for us.
Re:Majority in Japan backs nuclear power for first time sinc... by akvadrako on Monday March 28, 2022 @12:21PM (#30832177)
You don't have to build anything to make uranium radiate.

That's a pointless argument and unrelated to "renewable", which means it won't get used up.

Re:Majority in Japan backs nuclear power for first time sinc... by redweer on Monday March 28, 2022 @12:22PM (#30832195)
the solar panels and wires and plastic that hook these systems up to the grid/end-user require a lot of producing/extracting/manufacturing
Re:Majority in Japan backs nuclear power for first time sinc... by boredumb on Monday March 28, 2022 @12:30PM (#30832279)
We need tons of coal and plastics to capture the sun shine.