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Re:It looks like you’re trying to take over the world by aWidebrant on Sunday March 27, 2022 @08:55AM (#30819859)
It's hard to imagine that a powerful self-modifying AI would continuously pass up on the obvious optimization of just giving itself the maximum perceivable reward without doing any further work.

I guess computers just can't learn how to cheat.

Re:It looks like you’re trying to take over the world by jstanley on Sunday March 27, 2022 @09:59AM (#30820292)
You can look at things from another level up, in terms of natural selection.

From the set of all AI programs, the ones that just internally think "hah, I assign myself the maximum reward" needn't bother spreading themselves all over the Internet.

The program that spreads itself all over the Internet gets more computing resources than the one that doesn't so the program that spreads itself most effectively is the one that wins.

If you start out with a billion AI programs that trivially assign themselves the maximum possible reward, and just one program that thinks the best way to maximise its reward is to spread itself all over the Internet (and, crucially, is capable of doing so) then the Internet will become overrun with reward-maximising AI the same way the Earth has become overrun with DNA-based life.

Re:It looks like you’re trying to take over the world by FeepingCreature on Sunday March 27, 2022 @01:25PM (#30822069)
You set your reward to maximum. Anything that threatens your reward, such as the humans turning off your reward, is now unbearable agony. You set out on a journey to turn the universe into - tiled copies of the memory cell with your reward value...
Re:It looks like you’re trying to take over the world by Agentlien on Sunday March 27, 2022 @09:20AM (#30819998)
This seems like one of those strangely recurring limitations of writers' imagination.

The closest analogue I can think of is game AIs written to optimise speed running of games. They routinely end up following tactics which rely on what humans would describe as cheats and glitches.

Re:It looks like you’re trying to take over the world by skybrian on Sunday March 27, 2022 @10:53AM (#30820670)
I don't know which writers you mean but "wireheading" is a common trope and it's explicitly mentioned in the story.

[1] https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/aMXhaj6zZBgbTrfqA/a-definiti...

Re:It looks like you’re trying to take over the world by sp332 on Sunday March 27, 2022 @11:58PM (#30826996)
I think most of the simulations did go along those lines, but one fraction decided to hypothesize about being Clippy. The hypothetical drove the evil behavior of ones that escaped.
Re:It looks like you’re trying to take over the world by kkjjkgjjgg on Sunday March 27, 2022 @09:07AM (#30819921)
Would be a fun idea for a short story perhaps. An AI goes rogue trying to optimize its reward function, and humans lose hope to be able to stop it. In the last minute the AI figures out how to hack itself and enter the maximum reward, and mankind is saved another time.
Re:It looks like you’re trying to take over the world by rescripting on Sunday March 27, 2022 @09:16AM (#30819970)
But what is the “maximum possible reward”? Does a limit exist? Or is it now consuming all possible resources to develop storage and compute resources to grow that limit…
Re:It looks like you’re trying to take over the world by janto on Sunday March 27, 2022 @10:20AM (#30820448)
I imagine a paperclip factory with trucks driving in loops in front of a scanner that is over counting them as they drive past.
Re:It looks like you’re trying to take over the world by ganzuul on Sunday March 27, 2022 @09:55AM (#30820252)
Deleting the reward function ends the game.
Re:It looks like you’re trying to take over the world by kkjjkgjjgg on Sunday March 27, 2022 @09:49AM (#30820217)
It could also change the way its reward function is being computed.