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Re:Python and Qt simplified by vanous on Sunday March 27, 2022 @07:57AM (#30819568)
> fbs's source code is available on GitHub. You can use it for free in open source projects licensed under the GPL.

> The free version of fbs has several limitations. Upgrade to Pro to unlock its full potential. Upon purchase, you'll receive a hosted package that you can install just like fbs. No messing around with license keys. Just pip install and you are done.

So it is more like open core. This is fine, just not clear from the front "features" page listing.

Re:Python and Qt simplified by ognarb on Sunday March 27, 2022 @08:02AM (#30819603)
I'm getting annoyed at project saying that they are open source and then it turns out they are actually open core. I'm fine with dual licensing but not with false marketing.
Re:Python and Qt simplified by rat9988 on Sunday March 27, 2022 @08:55AM (#30819862)
Unless the core is not a product that can work by itself. I'd say it's still open source. Paid closed source extensions don't make it less open source.
Re:Python and Qt simplified by simonh on Sunday March 27, 2022 @03:10PM (#30823087)
They make it less open source than if the extensions were open source, or if the functionality was just part of the core system.
Re:Python and Qt simplified by mherrmann on Sunday March 27, 2022 @08:09AM (#30819631)
It's a historical artifact in this case. There was no commercial offering. But then I got requests for particular features and ongoing maintenance / support. This then became the additional parts you can buy.
Re:Python and Qt simplified by enriquto on Sunday March 27, 2022 @08:14AM (#30819661)
If that is the case, then the word "limitations" is very misleading, almost dishonest marketing. It would be more honest if the regular offering was presented as a complete product, with optional commercial "extensions", whose documentation is separate.
Re:Python and Qt simplified by mherrmann on Sunday March 27, 2022 @08:20AM (#30819682)
It lies in the eye of the beholder what you consider a limitation. I invite you to look at the home page and compare what's available for free and what isn't and draw your conclusion then.
Re:Python and Qt simplified by vanous on Sunday March 27, 2022 @08:58AM (#30819882)
>It lies in the eye of the beholder what you consider a limitation. I invite you to look at the home page and compare what's available for free and what isn't and draw your conclusion then.

I tried to look, but you want me to evaluate your project by going through the manual and search for the "Pro" tag (as per your documentation [*]) while here you tell us "look at the home page".

Your project is great and your work is much appreciated,thank you for that. What I am seeking is clarity of the offering, because if I choose FBS for my floss project, I do not plan to pay 50€ for a hidden cost.

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> Support for the latest versions of Python, PyQt6, PySide6 and PyInstaller.

> All features marked Pro in the Manual.

Re:Python and Qt simplified by naoqj on Sunday March 27, 2022 @10:29AM (#30820503)
Dude the latest version of python that the free version supports is 3.6, which is out of support (including security patches). The free tier of your application is simply unusable.
Re:Python and Qt simplified by icegreentea2 on Sunday March 27, 2022 @08:54AM (#30819853)
Hey, I support your decisions, but I do think that finding the list of limitations is annoying. Scrolling through your manual looking for "Pro" markers is a little error prone I feel - maybe if you could surface the pro-ness of them into the table of contents of the manual at least?
Re:Python and Qt simplified by indymike on Sunday March 27, 2022 @10:02AM (#30820312)
> I'm fine with dual licensing but not with false marketing.

I love getting source code, but there are places where you really are looking for Free Software, not merely open source. Open core model products are really frustrating because maybe your use case isn't one where the value is high enough to be worth paying for "pro". I run into this often when someone asks about doing charity work. I do really like it though when an open core company is clear about it.

Re:Python and Qt simplified by bscphil on Monday March 28, 2022 @02:21AM (#30827651)
It's actually a bit worse than open core, in that the closed source version of the program works with versions of Python that have not been end-of-lifed [1] but the open source version of the program does not [2]. Because of that I'm not comfortable calling this open-anything.

This is a closed-source program that used to have a open-source version, which is now abandonware.

[1] https://devguide.python.org/devcycle/#end-of-life-branches

[2] https://build-system.fman.io/manual/#requirements

Re:Python and Qt simplified by BiteCode_dev on Sunday March 27, 2022 @08:44AM (#30819789)
Open core is open source, just a layer on top of it. All the freedoms of FOSS are guaranteed for the software in the repo you are looking at.

The fact they make money by providing even more doesn't make it less open source.