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Re:GitHub incident: 2022/03/24 by awill on Thursday March 24, 2022 @11:35AM (#30791345)
Isn't that basically what happened to Skype? Microsoft paid $8.5B for Skype when it was on top of the world, and now I don't know a single person who uses it.
Re:GitHub incident: 2022/03/24 by queuebert on Thursday March 24, 2022 @11:48AM (#30791554)
When my organization uses a Microsoft video conferencing product, we use Teams, not "Skype for Business". I have no idea why, as I don't schedule the meetings, but I can say that I can't imagine something sucking worse than Teams.
Re:GitHub incident: 2022/03/24 by rsstack on Thursday March 24, 2022 @11:51AM (#30791602)
"Skype for Business" sucks more than Teams. But it's true: it's hard to imagine something like "Skype for Business". I had to use it for a few months when working with a business unit in a different country that were all forced to use it. We were all happy when their business unit's IT department agreed to move them from Skype to Teams.
Re:GitHub incident: 2022/03/24 by shafyy on Thursday March 24, 2022 @11:50AM (#30791578)
Teams is the worst. I constantly miss messages, the video calling feature randomly freezes videos of participants, and sometimes my audio doesn't work for no apparent reason. Their Wiki feature sucks, too.
Re:GitHub incident: 2022/03/24 by queuebert on Thursday March 24, 2022 @12:03PM (#30791765)
It's also a CPU hog. Why can I watch a 4K video in VLC for hours, but throwing up a couple of 200x100 windows in Teams kills the CPU? I guess Teams is written by interns.
Re:GitHub incident: 2022/03/24 by klhutchins on Thursday March 24, 2022 @12:12PM (#30791888)
I just think about why would they force video conferencing into SharePoint?
Re:GitHub incident: 2022/03/24 by anaccountexists on Thursday March 24, 2022 @12:14PM (#30791914)
Teams is built on top of Skype for Business, SfB is one of the main backends for them.
Re:GitHub incident: 2022/03/24 by iratewizard on Thursday March 24, 2022 @11:48AM (#30791548)
They got patent trolled and flinched. They removed the things that made Skype best in class and turned it into just another low quality corporate messenger.
Re:GitHub incident: 2022/03/24 by pzduniak on Thursday March 24, 2022 @12:30PM (#30792157)
Was it really due to that lawsuit? IIRC the main issue with P2P was that you could discover anyone's IP address by knowing their Skype username. I recall that people used this to DoS people in multiplayer video games - they looked up accounts with roughly the same name as the in-game one and proceeded to drop their connection. It was especially common in League of Legends.
Re:GitHub incident: 2022/03/24 by throwaway89645 on Thursday March 24, 2022 @07:49PM (#30797024)
Yep - It was bad enough that it was common practice for people to proxy their skypes through a third party.

(It was pretty nice that Skype let you do that really easily though)

Re:GitHub incident: 2022/03/24 by tonyedgecombe on Thursday March 24, 2022 @12:19PM (#30791997)
€5.4bn for Nokia and that didn't work out for them either.
Re:GitHub incident: 2022/03/24 by Cthulhu_ on Thursday March 24, 2022 @11:54AM (#30791644)
Anecdotal: It's still the primary communications thing in my company and probably our customers (telecoms / networks, probably quite archaic).