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Re:Vitalik Buterin is worried about crypto's future by shafyy on Monday March 21, 2022 @09:43AM (#30754019)
> Such as?

Enabling fraud, enabling ransomware, enabling authoritarian dictators to enrich themselves. Furthermore there's still Bitcoin that will never move to PoS, and the popularity of ETH also swaps over to Bitcoin and other cryptos.

Yes, yes, there are also scams in fiat money blabla. The problem here is, that cryptos are a strictly zero-sum game and don't add any value to anybody except people who are able to dump their coins to the next greater fool. So why should we accept all these disproportionate externalities?

Re:Vitalik Buterin is worried about crypto's future by hunterb123 on Monday March 21, 2022 @09:48AM (#30754082)
Stolen credit cards and chargebacks are a big problem. Fiat currency has a whole slew of problems. Mastercard, Visa, Stripe and PayPal don't allow at risk products like in-game currencies, porn, etc. They frequently use their powers to cut off funding for certain political targets.

I don't think simply yelling "fraud" and "scams" is enough to dissuade people anymore. New talking point please.

Honestly the anti-crypto sentiment here is ridiculous. I hope people know that the same people preaching against it here are gobbling up crypto as fast as they can while trying to dissuade others.

Re:Vitalik Buterin is worried about crypto's future by shafyy on Monday March 21, 2022 @11:11AM (#30754990)
> I hope people know that the same people preaching against it here are gobbling up crypto as fast as they can while trying to dissuade others.

Only a person who extends their crypto-scam thinking to others would think this way. I can assure you that I don't hold any crypto, and that I'm pretty certain that the majority of outspoken crypto sceptics don't hold any crypto.

Re:Vitalik Buterin is worried about crypto's future by jakelazaroff on Monday March 21, 2022 @10:04AM (#30754244)
Why would anyone “gobbling up crypto as fast as they can” hurt the value of their investment by trying to dissuade others?
Re:Vitalik Buterin is worried about crypto's future by hunterb123 on Monday March 21, 2022 @10:18AM (#30754420)
Dissuading only hurts in the short run, it's good to keep the prices down if you want to long.

If you think it will be more lucrative in the future it helps to extend the current prices by investing while dissuading others to invest.

They'd have to get in at a later, much higher price in that scenario.

Re:Vitalik Buterin is worried about crypto's future by WrtCdEvrydy on Monday March 21, 2022 @10:05AM (#30754257)
> Enabling fraud, enabling ransomware, enabling authoritarian dictators to enrich themselves.

iTunes gift cards, iTunes gift cards, oil.

Can we ban those too?

Re:Vitalik Buterin is worried about crypto's future by otterley on Monday March 21, 2022 @10:17AM (#30754407)
Ahh, whataboutism, the gas fee equivalent of HN.
Re:Vitalik Buterin is worried about crypto's future by Tretiotrr on Monday March 21, 2022 @10:44AM (#30754707)
Weird strawman argument.

But yes. Let's ban it.