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Re:I think US college education is nearer to collapsing than... by ModernMech on Sunday March 20, 2022 @10:15PM (#30749287)
> Teaching? Never heard of it.

This view is starting to become outdated. Plenty of schools now have a role known as "Teaching Professor" that focuses on teaching, with no research expectation. They have all the same qualifications as any faculty hired for the role, like a Ph.D. in the field. At UPenn at least they can even get tenure.

Re:I think US college education is nearer to collapsing than... by Fomite on Monday March 21, 2022 @07:19AM (#30752679)
Indeed I have a position without a teaching obligation (though I do teach a bit because I want to), and it's vanishingly rare to find one of those in my field outside of a medical school.
Re:I think US college education is nearer to collapsing than... by ModernMech on Monday March 21, 2022 @02:42PM (#30758029)
They've just added this position to our school called "Research Faculty". They are soft money supported and have no teaching load. Often they will be attached to some research institute.
Re:I think US college education is nearer to collapsing than... by Fomite on Monday March 21, 2022 @02:44PM (#30758053)
Soft money supported versions are fairly common - mine's got a substantial hard money component, which is what makes it rare and honestly a little bit wonderful.
Re:I think US college education is nearer to collapsing than... by naveen99 on Tuesday March 29, 2022 @07:25AM (#30841172)
What’s soft vs hard money ?
Re:I think US college education is nearer to collapsing than... by Fomite on Wednesday March 30, 2022 @04:06AM (#30852540)
Soft Money: A position where a substantial portion (usually 50%+) of one's salary is expected to be brought in by grants. Failing to do so is, at best, going to impact your salary, and at worst, is a good way to no longer have a job.

Hard Money: University-level funds (from the university, the state if a state school, etc.) provide a portion of your salary that doesn't have to be tied to a grant. This often comes with other obligations (i.e. teaching).

Most positions are a mix of the two in some form. Purely soft money positions, or >50% soft money positions, are common at some research institutes, medical schools, etc. Hard money positions that don't come with substantial non-research obligations are very rare.

Re:I think US college education is nearer to collapsing than... by naveen99 on Thursday March 31, 2022 @06:56PM (#30873176)
Thanks.
Re:I think US college education is nearer to collapsing than... by wyclif on Sunday March 20, 2022 @11:19PM (#30749839)
How does that work now at UPenn?
Re:I think US college education is nearer to collapsing than... by ModernMech on Monday March 21, 2022 @01:14AM (#30750557)
So this is based on what a colleague told me who left my institution for UPenn. The position is "Teaching Professor" or equivalent where the idea is you spend most of your time teaching, with zero expectation of research, although you might want to engage in research about teaching. That kind of introspection comes naturally. Usually this role is without tenure, but universities are trying to make this position more attractive and so some, like UPenn, have attached the potential promise of tenure to the role (although I'm not familiar with the specifics of the promotion process there).
Re:I think US college education is nearer to collapsing than... by wyclif on Monday March 21, 2022 @01:17AM (#30750565)
Thanks, this is a helpful explanation since I'm considering a UPenn degree programme at the moment.