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Re:Flash Game Simulates Living on $9/hr. by duncanj on Tuesday October 04, 2011 @10:25PM (#3073877)
Given that the median farmworker (crops) made $8.98 in 2010, your experience would seem a little extraordinary. The better-paid median ranchworker made $10.56. $12 in 1999 had the same buying power as $15.71 in 2010.

Sources: BLS http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes_nat.htm#45-0000 http://146.142.4.24/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl?cost1=12.00&year1...

Re:Flash Game Simulates Living on $9/hr. by Duff on Wednesday October 05, 2011 @09:18AM (#3075438)
I started doing hay (which involves throwing and stacking 40-50 pound bales in a hot barn) at $6.00/hr. After a year or two I was doing a variety of jobs that were a higher value to my employer. Also worked for an awesome family who worked us very hard.
Re:Flash Game Simulates Living on $9/hr. by hugh3 on Tuesday October 04, 2011 @11:59PM (#3074132)
There were fewer illegals in the 1990s, though, right?
Re:Flash Game Simulates Living on $9/hr. by knowtheory on Wednesday October 05, 2011 @03:12AM (#3074588)
Why do you believe that?

The Pew Hispanic Center estimates that in the 1980s the net advance of the undocumented population was at the 130,000 per year, increasing to 450,000 per year from 1990–1994, and further increasing to 750,000 per year from 1995–1999, and staying at 700,000–850,000+ per year since about 2000

(see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_immigrant_population_of... )

Re:Flash Game Simulates Living on $9/hr. by Duff on Wednesday October 05, 2011 @09:15AM (#3075425)
NAFTA was the catalyst the created the waves of immigration from Mexico.

Why?

"Free trade" destroyed many US factory jobs, but it vaporized Mexican agriculture. Small proprietor farms were out of business overnight by the flood of cheap US corn.

The human element in illegal immigration is usually completely ignored. People don't pull up stakes and walk across a desert because they think that working in a poultry slaughterhouse is a great life. They do so because it is a better life than complete destitution that they face at home.

Re:Flash Game Simulates Living on $9/hr. by SamReidHughes on Wednesday October 05, 2011 @03:26AM (#3074622)
That Wikipedia page agrees with him.
Re:Flash Game Simulates Living on $9/hr. by knowtheory on Wednesday October 05, 2011 @11:40AM (#3076109)
Well i mean, sort of, but not really. The influx in immigration took place in the 90s and stabilized, and is now falling due to the economic collapse in the US.

Either way, i think we're well served by including some specific claims (and that's why i cited the wikipedia page)

Re:Flash Game Simulates Living on $9/hr. by SamReidHughes on Thursday October 06, 2011 @02:25AM (#3079256)
hugh3 is talking about first derivative of the number of illegals, and you're talking about the second derivative.