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Re:'Children of Men' is happening by yetihehe on Saturday March 19, 2022 @03:52PM (#30737013)
Whole discussion was started because your question "how are you going to provide the additional goods and services these people will be able to afford" seems nonsensical. How? With increased production. Increasing production is not a problem.
Re:'Children of Men' is happening by simonh on Sunday March 20, 2022 @10:46AM (#30743033)
How are you going to do that though, with people working less? Why is it not a problem?
Re:'Children of Men' is happening by yetihehe on Sunday March 20, 2022 @01:27PM (#30744598)
With automation or employing more people. We are not at a full production capacity now, we could produce more, but we don't because there is no demand currently for more.
Re:'Children of Men' is happening by simonh on Sunday March 20, 2022 @04:24PM (#30746252)
The US had close to full employment. Two thirds of the unemployed find a job within 6 months, they’re not really unemployed just between jobs. Of course there are spots of higher unemployment due structural reasons that need addressing, but at the macro scale their just not going to to make an even fractional change. Not the mass scale global transformation your talking about. China is running out of in tapped labour too.

Production is expanding elsewhere in SE Asia but those countries are much smaller and taking time and a lot of capital to ramp up.

Where are all these new workers going to come from, and if they could work productively already why aren’t they?

None of this makes a lick of sense.

Re:'Children of Men' is happening by yetihehe on Monday March 21, 2022 @02:54AM (#30751029)
> Where are all these new workers going to come from, and if they could work productively already why aren’t they?

Why would they work more productively if that is not needed? They would have to make more things, which people wouldn't buy because there is overproduction. If you have order for 1000 items every week, you make 1000 items every week, even when you could make 5000 items every week. You can slow your production line, this way workers are more relaxed and you have time for maintenance. It's not like every employee out there is used at 100% utilisation, that would not be sustainable. Many times you employ as many people as you can just because it's cheaper than using more automation. If you need to produce more and can't find employes, you can pay them more. If you can't find enough employes at all, that means price per employee is so high that you can now employ some robots. Yeah, it takes time, but global change in time of employment is also not going to happen overnight.

Re:'Children of Men' is happening by simonh on Monday March 21, 2022 @05:56AM (#30752172)
But that all increases costs right? Who pays for it?
Re:'Children of Men' is happening by yetihehe on Monday March 21, 2022 @06:56AM (#30752531)
> Also how are you going to provide the additional goods and services these people will be able to afford

So, we provided more products to people who now have money. And now you are asking "Who will pay". Well, the people who now have the money to pay for it? That was the reason for increased production in the first place?