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Re:Crypto is an unproductive bubble by UncleMeat on Friday March 18, 2022 @08:37PM (#30729573)
> Banks won’t protect you from wire fraud.

They will if you didn't initiate the wire. If you typed the wrong account number then you are SOL, but that's true of BTC too.

Re:Crypto is an unproductive bubble by neatze on Friday March 18, 2022 @08:58PM (#30729740)
I am a person who wired ~15K to wrong bank account outside US, I only realized after got notification that money was not received it was days later, reversing wire was straight forward and took if not mistaken a week to process, while requesting to reverse transaction branch manager warned me that on another end bank might refuse to reverse transaction and then this money would be lost forever.
Re:Crypto is an unproductive bubble by hedora on Friday March 18, 2022 @09:25PM (#30729935)
That's a pretty good outcome.

I've found that when I wire a large amount of money to a new account, humans sanity check the transaction at both banks.

Also, I once did something weird (wire to same escrow firm a few days apart), and got a call of the form "What's going on? Did you buy two houses or something?"

Re:Crypto is an unproductive bubble by fossuser on Friday March 18, 2022 @09:39PM (#30730032)
You were lucky, I’ve heard similar stories where the money ended up lost (good faith deposit for a mortgage wired to fraudster).
Re:Crypto is an unproductive bubble by rvz on Friday March 18, 2022 @09:22PM (#30729915)
Reminds me of [0] but this time it is by the bank itself accidentally depositing into rival bank accounts.

Oh dear.

[0] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59826345

Re:Crypto is an unproductive bubble by cco on Friday March 18, 2022 @08:44PM (#30729621)
That isn't true in my experience at a, "lot of money" scale. They will help you set up the transaction, confirm the receiving party, test and prove the transfer, execute it.

There are also courts etc to get involved, if someone sends you a million dollar wire and you keep it (for no services rendered), courts generally don't let you just have it (cross border caveats etc).

Re:Crypto is an unproductive bubble by fossuser on Friday March 18, 2022 @08:51PM (#30729689)
Courts can also get involved in the BTC case too - it’s just an expensive and slow option in both cases (with uncertain outcomes).
Re:Crypto is an unproductive bubble by katbyte on Saturday March 19, 2022 @02:14AM (#30731580)
Assuming you can actually track down who owns the wallet.. banks know who is responsible for each account.
Re:Crypto is an unproductive bubble by quickthrower2 on Friday March 18, 2022 @11:03PM (#30730547)
They also might be able to help if you were conned into sending the money. The money might be freezable.
Re:Crypto is an unproductive bubble by fossuser on Friday March 18, 2022 @08:40PM (#30729588)
Yeah, the similarity there was more of my point. Wire Fraud theft often happens by scammers that have hacked title companies and send emails with fraudulent account numbers to people expecting them.

Frankly banks also rarely help people scammed via other means (Venmo, Apple Pay, Zelle, etc.)