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Re:US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time... by moralestapia on Tuesday March 15, 2022 @03:18PM (#30689941)
(Congrats. paxys, you got me to reply twice to you :))

>and there isn't a "correct" answer there

For me, personally, I like the concept that noon is when the sun is at it highest point or closest, I can adjust everything else around that.

Re:US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time... by paxys on Tuesday March 15, 2022 @03:21PM (#30689992)
Considering how wide time zones are that is pretty much impossible to standardize on regardless of which clock you pick. Then it becomes a question of which cities you are going to prioritize, and I doubt any politician wants to start that conversation.

Plus, "solar noon" itself shifts by ~20 mins throughout the year due to the Earth's orbit.

Re:US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time... by ginko on Tuesday March 15, 2022 @03:34PM (#30690272)
>Considering how wide time zones are that is pretty much impossible to standardize on regardless of which clock you pick

With standard time you will still have the rough center of the time zone match with solar time with about +/- 30 minutes give or take on the sides. With DST it may well happen that no part of the timezone actually matches solar time since everything is essentially shifted 1 hour to the East.

Re:US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time... by mindcrime on Tuesday March 15, 2022 @03:22PM (#30690011)
An awful lot of us can't "just adjust around that" though. A significant portion of the population work jobs with relatively fixed hours, working something like 8-5, 9-6, etc. So if you don't get off work until, say, 6, and then have an hour commute home, DST is really nice to allow for some sunlight for outdoor activities after work.

Sure, it's easy to say "just leave work an hour earlier" and some people have that flexibility. But far from most, I'd wager.

Re:US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time... by hinkley on Tuesday March 15, 2022 @03:27PM (#30690120)
I would like to see this change in conjunction to moving to a 32-35 hour work week. As a developer it is still often socially difficult to take time during the day to do errands or go to appointments, and so I am constantly reminded of the times when I simply could not take the time off.

I'd love to live in a world where bankers and dentists and optometrists all kept different hours, so the bankers could get glasses, and the dentists take out loans, without having to drop everything to do it. With smart phones this is somewhat more tenable. I don't need to memorize when the dentist is open, so there is less immediate value in reducing the world to a small set of common numbers.

Re:US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time... by chrisseaton on Tuesday March 15, 2022 @03:37PM (#30690327)
> then have an hour commute home

That’s where the problem is.

Re:US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time... by adolph on Tuesday March 15, 2022 @03:36PM (#30690317)
"Or closest" is a mildly significant caveat.

The real Sun and the imaginary “mean Sun,” from which mean solar time is measured, may be as much as 16 minutes apart because during the course of the year the apparent motion of the real Sun against the background of the stars (the ecliptic) alternately slows down and speeds up.

https://www.britannica.com/science/solar-time

The east–west component [of the analemma] results from the nonuniform rate of change of the Sun's right ascension, governed by combined effects of Earth's axial tilt and orbital eccentricity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analemma

Re:US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time... by acegopher on Tuesday March 15, 2022 @03:23PM (#30690015)
> For me, personally, I like the concept that noon is when the sun is at it highest point or closest, I can adjust everything else around that

Then you must not like time zones, as that is true only in one particular sliver of a time zone. You want true local time, like before the railroads time.

Re:US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time... by moralestapia on Tuesday March 15, 2022 @03:58PM (#30690672)
Actually, time zones are the best approach we have now to "noon is when the sun is up".
Re:US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time... by collegeburner on Tuesday March 15, 2022 @03:43PM (#30690422)
I actually like this as a compromise. Otherwise it's just a matter of how many people prefer leisure at what time.