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Re:Finland starts much-delayed nuclear plant, brings respite... by pishpash on Saturday March 12, 2022 @03:37PM (#30654674)
And heat-polluted waste waters? People keep pretending there are no externalities.
Re:Finland starts much-delayed nuclear plant, brings respite... by lazide on Saturday March 12, 2022 @04:00PM (#30654831)
If the biggest externality is heated water in a subarctic climate, or nuclear waste that gets stored on-site indefinitely in casks and produces no notable leaks or accidents (like has been done in the US for a long time now), the externalities are way less than literally any other form of energy production. That includes Dams, solar power, geothermal, wind, you name it.
Re:Finland starts much-delayed nuclear plant, brings respite... by kortilla on Saturday March 12, 2022 @04:11PM (#30654910)
No, people aren’t pretending that. Heat pollution in water is a tiny local issue compared to global warming.

It’s like complaining that a wool blanket is itchy so it might be better to catch hypothermia and die.

Re:Finland starts much-delayed nuclear plant, brings respite... by seanmcdirmid on Saturday March 12, 2022 @04:07PM (#30654891)
What prevents heated waste water from being used for…heat? Surely Finland uses central heating plants that pump hot water throughout the city (or maybe that’s just a Chinese/Russian thing?). What makes waste heat water less suited to heating, higher entropy?
Re:Finland starts much-delayed nuclear plant, brings respite... by ProblemFactory on Saturday March 12, 2022 @04:24PM (#30655011)
Combined Heat and Power in Finland is very common, much more so than in rest of Europe. 80% of the fossil fuel power plants output both electricity and heated water. Compared to (quick googling) 8% in the US and 11% in EU.
Re:Finland starts much-delayed nuclear plant, brings respite... by RF_Savage on Saturday March 12, 2022 @09:18PM (#30657248)
Fear of nuclear power. People don't want water heated by it in their homes. So it is not done. It's not a purely rational thing.

The plants are also located away from cities, so utilizing the waste heat for district heating is uneconomical.

Re:Finland starts much-delayed nuclear plant, brings respite... by Ekaros on Saturday March 12, 2022 @04:23PM (#30655004)
I think it just not hot enough after electricity production. So temperature is not high enough after it passes through turbines. Specially due to distances involved.
Re:Finland starts much-delayed nuclear plant, brings respite... by rsynnott on Saturday March 12, 2022 @05:05PM (#30655385)
> And heat-polluted waste waters?

That's hardly unique to nuclear plants; in particular, coal plants typically have lower thermal efficiency.