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Re:Ask HN: How to make older iPad/iPhone usable? by smoldesu on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @08:36PM (#30622270)
This really makes me sad. I'd like to live in a world where burned-out iPads could be used as digital calendars or drawing tablets or something of that ilk. We see people revel in the functionality of old Macs/PCs all the time here on Hacker News, it's pretty harrowing to realize that our reality is one where making these systems usable again is seen as a "waste of time", and that feeling of joy derived from finding older technology that still has a place in the world has all but dried up.
Re:Ask HN: How to make older iPad/iPhone usable? by Klonoar on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @09:09PM (#30622469)
I dunno, I'm increasingly coming around to the opinion that old technology that can't be used well anymore just doesn't have a place outside of a museum. Apple's recycling efforts are actually pretty good and so for their ecosystem I'm less bothered about ditching old devices and moving on with my life.

e.g, this:

>We see people revel in the functionality of old Macs/PCs all the time

To me isn't something worth revel'ing in, it just feels like waxing nostalgic. But I understand that I'm in the minority here and people legitimately like this stuff (and people like old cars and such, so hey, I get it), but it's not for me.

Re:Ask HN: How to make older iPad/iPhone usable? by ThatPlayer on Thursday March 10, 2022 @12:43AM (#30623586)
To me the issue is that Apple's browser is outdated and missing modern features. On top of that, I can't just put new apps on it because it's no longer supported on the App Store, and I'm not going to pay for a developer license (and a Mac) just to run whatever I want on it.

For example one of the uses I'd like to do would be to repurpose it as a smart home display with my Home Assistant setup. Problem is the web interface uses features that the browser doesn't support. The suggestions on HA forums is to run a better browser remotely and use the iPad as a dumb display: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/options-for-lovelace-o...

This is why I'm for the bills to force Apple to allow 'sideloading'. Even with jailbreaking, I haven't seen an effort to make an alternative browser engine run on iOS, and my device is further hampered by it being an older 32-bit processor that Apple no longer support.

Even if those laws do pass, I doubt they'd update my old iPad. What I'll probably end up doing instead is ripping the display out and hooking it up to a HDMI controller board, and then connecting a Raspberry Pi to that.

Re:Ask HN: How to make older iPad/iPhone usable? by tannhaeuser on Thursday March 10, 2022 @02:00AM (#30623902)
> I can't just put new apps on it because it's no longer supported on the App Store

Even if it hasn't support for running the up-to-date App Store app (hanging at about the point where a payment method is configured), I found out that if you have another iDevice, you can use that for purchasing and then the app appears in the purchased apps tab on the old iOS device, from where you can download it. Provided the app is supported on iOS 9 and/or the developer hasn't deliberately removed old versions.

That's how I've installed the occasional kid game or adventure game on my almost ten years old iPad mini (1!). That genre had seen a renaissance around 2012-2015, and some review comments on the app store even claim apps from that time run better on older iPads. iPad 2 is better even, actually has had a really decent run with updates for six years or so, with the latest updates only from last year (iOS 12? with metal support), so should be good for years to come.

The battery on my old iPad mini still goes strong with at least 8 hours, too; the display is no match to current devices, though.

Re:Ask HN: How to make older iPad/iPhone usable? by TillE on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @08:51PM (#30622372)
The iPad 3 is an early adopter device, the first of the retina iPads. It was always pretty slow, and it has not aged well.

If you have a project idea for it, sure, you can probably still build stuff for it with XCode. It's not a brick. But it's a lousy consumer device.

Re:Ask HN: How to make older iPad/iPhone usable? by yuppie_scum on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @08:58PM (#30622413)
Well, they are recyclable these days
Re:Ask HN: How to make older iPad/iPhone usable? by boxingrock on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @11:21PM (#30623187)
especially since the raspberry pi just turned 10 years old and you can still get security updates for the original models because it's just linux.