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Re:The day Steve Jobs dissed me in a keynote (2010) by willbudd on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @09:40AM (#30614849)
Can you imagine having to manually insert 100000 CDs and all their metadata into some GUI, even though you have everything on file elsewhere already? And not just any GUI application, but the complete garbage that is iTunes.

Because some dev/clown has the hubris to proclaim "there is no other way"? I'd not care if you're Steve Jobs himself. That's some just laugh and leave the room level of Kafkaesque ridiculousness.

Glad I work in the era of public-facing APIs. Even if Apple still seems to be clinging on to their consume-only mentality.

Re:The day Steve Jobs dissed me in a keynote (2010) by vishnugupta on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @10:05AM (#30615164)
> the complete garbage that is iTunes.

I’ve become an Apple fan as I’ve spent most of my IT time in their ecosystem over last 5 years. I’ve come to appreciate their UI pattern (which was confusing at first due to my conditioning of Linux), the consistency, nifty little features.

However to this day I just couldn’t get used to their iTunes (and now Apple Music) UX. I’m always fumbling around, searching for a song is a same sequence of confusing clicks and swipes. I thought it was me but now I’m convinced that it’s just a garbage of a software.

Re:The day Steve Jobs dissed me in a keynote (2010) by ZYinMD on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @10:33AM (#30615556)
Speaking of their UI pattern, I just don't understand why MacOS doesn't indicate when one software has 2 or more open windows. For example, if you open 2 Word documents, the Word app will only show one, and there's no intuitive way to tell if there's a second window, and no intuitive way to switch to the second window. My wife has had a Mac for 10 years and still only semi understands how these windows work.

Edit: comments below are trying to tell me how to switch windows, of course I know how. My point is MacOS doesn't tell you there are multiple windows. On PC, the Dock will show "stacked" icons.

Re:The day Steve Jobs dissed me in a keynote (2010) by oblio on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @10:42AM (#30615668)
Apple is gently telling you you're holding your phone, sorry, Word, wrong, and you shouldn't do that.

I'm not kidding, for some of this stuff that's their actual line of reasoning.

They probably want you to use some other window management feature, regardless if you want to use it or not.

Re:The day Steve Jobs dissed me in a keynote (2010) by dangus on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @11:21AM (#30616254)
Go to the Trackpad settings, go to "More Gestures," turn on "App Exposé." Three finger swipe down will reveal all windows in an application.

You can also cycle between windows in an application with Command + ` (tilde or backtick key)

Also, In the Keyboard settings, there's a shortcut under Mission Control for "Application Windows," set to Control + Down by default.

Re:The day Steve Jobs dissed me in a keynote (2010) by loudtieblahblah on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @01:39PM (#30618342)
This is my other complaint.

Having to have their stupid track pad to have functionality sucks.

I want a mouse and keyboard. A keyboard that doesn't fist fuck a Fn key where the Ctrl key is supposed to be.

A keyboard with a delete button.

A keyboard with a number pad.

You know. .. Like grown ups use.

Re:The day Steve Jobs dissed me in a keynote (2010) by KarlKemp on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @02:40PM (#30619039)
Like this? https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MMMR3LL/A/magic-keyboard-...

No Fn key, delete button, number pad.

Re:The day Steve Jobs dissed me in a keynote (2010) by loudtieblahblah on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @03:28PM (#30619550)
200 for a 40 dollar keyboard to restore functionality they took away bc they're brave and different
Re:The day Steve Jobs dissed me in a keynote (2010) by frenchwhisker on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @10:43AM (#30615686)
Use “App Expose” to show multiple windows (you can configure this to a swipe down gesture).

Use Command+` (backtick) to switch between windows.

Re:The day Steve Jobs dissed me in a keynote (2010) by loudtieblahblah on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @01:34PM (#30618265)
Yeah this is fucking horrible. I have tons of shit open

I shouldn't have to see all of it to find the one thing I want. I should be able to pick from the app.

There's an app out there called ubar which replaces the dock and it's functionality is amazing. But it's memory hog and freezes all the time.

I'm forced to use a Mac for work

Probably the most powerful machine I've ever owned. I have a giant ass 40+ in curved monitor.

I still prefer my 10+ year old Dell laptop with an aging Linux distro on it.

Hell.. I prefer Windows.

Using a Mac is so painful. The moronic fn key placement.

Using a terminal reverts back to using the Ctrl key but everything else uses ⌘

There's no real concept of window management.

The version of Bash is 10+ years old.

I've always hated the "menu bar" but now that I have a monitor bigger than Lizzo's ass I really hate it. Having to drag my cursor 45miles up to get to Edit is idiotic.

The number of apps I have to install to get it to function like a real desktop makes my system tray look like it did on Windows XP SP2.

Nevermind whenever my non-apple Bluetooth headset connects it auto-opens Apple Music even though I've never once used it and I never will. There's zero way to disable this functionality. Zero.

MacOS is an abortion

Re:The day Steve Jobs dissed me in a keynote (2010) by raytube on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @10:15AM (#30615302)
On my droid about 2.5gb of garbage of a software.

And yet it almost works on Google assistant, with hardly any installation.

I too get lost from playlist and search/song wandering, but Apple isn't unique in this regard.

Re:The day Steve Jobs dissed me in a keynote (2010) by kayodelycaon on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @10:15AM (#30615318)
I've been an Apple fan since 2008. Their media apps are just bad and have they have been for years.
Re:The day Steve Jobs dissed me in a keynote (2010) by DonHopkins on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @09:59AM (#30615097)
If only there were a way to script Apple applications, perhaps some kind of architecture, for scripting, that was open, and Apple's own apps actually supported it...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AppleScript#Open_Scripting_Arc...

Re:The day Steve Jobs dissed me in a keynote (2010) by colonwqbang on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @10:03AM (#30615135)
Can you script a CD-ROM to jump off its shelf and into the CD-ROM reader?
Re:The day Steve Jobs dissed me in a keynote (2010) by DonHopkins on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @10:04AM (#30615157)
Can you script Steve Jobs to let them simply submit the high quality rips and metadata they already had?
Re:The day Steve Jobs dissed me in a keynote (2010) by mcast on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @10:08AM (#30615206)
You could probably emulate a CD driver using the WAV files from your server.
Re:The day Steve Jobs dissed me in a keynote (2010) by yurishimo on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @02:59PM (#30619252)
This is a neat idea! I wish I had some software to test this entire workflow and build some automation, just for fun. :)
Re:The day Steve Jobs dissed me in a keynote (2010) by ZYinMD on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @10:24AM (#30615448)
Well his brain is not your brain, and no matter how ridiculous you think he is, he has the final outcome of Apple to prove he's right. Put a different person in his position and the company would have bankrupted.
Re:The day Steve Jobs dissed me in a keynote (2010) by kawsper on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @10:03AM (#30615137)
I don't know how it is today, but I've noticed both spelling mistakes and ripping errors on bought content from iTunes (Music).
Re:The day Steve Jobs dissed me in a keynote (2010) by duxup on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @09:44AM (#30614909)
>even though you already have everything on file elsewhere already?

Sounds like an opportunity to automate much of that...

Re:The day Steve Jobs dissed me in a keynote (2010) by willbudd on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @10:05AM (#30615162)
Yeah, no doubt. Everything can be automated. And I'm sure some dirty hack was cobbled together to work around the situation rather than turning some poor human into a zombie with both RSI and PTSD. I'd hope.

But let's not turn the tables that way. My point is that "opportunity" should have been addressed _before_ Steve Jobs decided to fly in all those industry bigwigs to do his sales pitch. I mean, who was selling who here exactly? Different times I guess...

Re:The day Steve Jobs dissed me in a keynote (2010) by duxup on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @10:07AM (#30615185)
I really don't have a problem with putting the onus on the owner to make sure their information is correct, let them prioritize and so on.

It's not ideal, but in 2003 the idea that everything has an API was still very pie in the sky for A LOT of things.

Re:The day Steve Jobs dissed me in a keynote (2010) by willbudd on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @10:18AM (#30615358)
That's fair, but there didn't even need to be an API. Just some feature to import WAV files and/or track listings would have gone a long way.