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Re:Putin may be planning to pummel Kyiv into submission by zpeti on Tuesday March 08, 2022 @03:13AM (#30597697)
Is wanting to put your name in the history books not objectively rational?
Re:Putin may be planning to pummel Kyiv into submission by oblio on Tuesday March 08, 2022 @03:19AM (#30597736)
Not if it kills you and not if it's infamy.

Especially since he has kids, he'll be leaving them an extra bad legacy, even in his own country.

Re:Putin may be planning to pummel Kyiv into submission by zpeti on Tuesday March 08, 2022 @03:31AM (#30597815)
Oh come on, there are plenty of people in history who are willing to sacrifice their family for fame or fortune.

You might not think it’s rational but it’s fairly common. Saying it’s irrational is explaining away pretty common behaviour with “they aren’t like me so they’re idiots”.

Except it’s more your own empathy that’s lacking for understanding another perspective.

Re:Putin may be planning to pummel Kyiv into submission by Bancakes on Tuesday March 08, 2022 @06:33AM (#30598801)
You know what else is common, logical fallacies. You don't have to be one to know one, to know Putin's actions have brought poverty, misery, and death. Writing your name in history books 'just because' is not a well thought out motive, neither was the assault. Its irrational because it lacks rationality.
Re:Putin may be planning to pummel Kyiv into submission by oblio on Tuesday March 08, 2022 @03:47AM (#30597903)
No, it's irrational :-)

> The seven characteristics of life include:

> responsiveness to the environment;

> growth and change;

> <<ability to reproduce;>>

> have a metabolism and breathe;

> maintain homeostasis;

> being made of cells; and.

> <<passing traits onto offspring.>>

Putin is defective, he's making the lives of his own kids harder.

I mean, I don't even need to say he's defective, it's obvious. He's a narcissist.

There can be no empathy for autocrat narcissists. They don't have any and they don't deserve any.

Re:Putin may be planning to pummel Kyiv into submission by freefaler on Tuesday March 08, 2022 @06:30AM (#30598787)
Do you know what happened to Goebbels children at the end of the war? Killed by their own parents. There is a wikipedia article about that. So we can't be certain what can parents do even when their decisions affect their own children. (sadly)
Re:Putin may be planning to pummel Kyiv into submission by dirtyid on Tuesday March 08, 2022 @03:42AM (#30597885)
Generations of Russians will build golden statues of Putin if he successfully conquer and holds on to Ukraine. It's hard to understate the significance of Putin's revanchist ambitions in relation to Russian cultural and strategic interests.
Re:Putin may be planning to pummel Kyiv into submission by ChuckNorris89 on Tuesday March 08, 2022 @04:32AM (#30598157)
Putin's kids will be set for life financially, and can live a super safe and comfy life in neutral countries like Switzerland, New Zeeland or Austria.
Re:Putin may be planning to pummel Kyiv into submission by oblio on Tuesday March 08, 2022 @05:00AM (#30598286)
If he wins. If he's deposed, they might be dead.
Re:Putin may be planning to pummel Kyiv into submission by ChuckNorris89 on Tuesday March 08, 2022 @05:25AM (#30598412)
I doubt his kids would be killed in Austria/Switzerland/New Zeeland.

Plus, the former head of Mi6 warned not to try and corner Putin, since if he were to be personally severely threatened, he wouldn't hesitate to turn to using nuclear weapons and take the whole world down with him if he were to ever be ousted form power by the west.

Re:Putin may be planning to pummel Kyiv into submission by glogla on Tuesday March 08, 2022 @06:21AM (#30598727)
"Not cornering Putin" just means giving him what he wants. It is the opposite of what we need to do - show how weak he is and let his own people give him Gaddafi ending.
Re:Putin may be planning to pummel Kyiv into submission by ChuckNorris89 on Tuesday March 08, 2022 @06:45AM (#30598875)
>show how weak he is and let his own people give him Gaddafi ending

Never gonna happen because:

1) The majority of the Russian population is still supportive of him, thinking they're fighting to liberate Ukraine from nazis and that the western sanctions are in place because the west hates them, rather than consequences for their leaders' war crimes

2) Like the former head of Mi6 said, Putin is so mad that if threatened, he's more likely to be ok with seeing the whole world get nuked, instead of going down like Gaddafi did, which is why the west is going so soft on him.

Re:Putin may be planning to pummel Kyiv into submission by glogla on Tuesday March 08, 2022 @06:47AM (#30598894)
> 2) Like the former head of Mi6 said, Putin is so mad that if threatened, he's more likely to be ok with seeing the whole world get nuked, instead of going down like Gaddafi did, which is why the west is going so soft on him.

That's ok. Putin doesn't have a big red button, he actually needs a lot of people to be ok with committing a suicide, and it is likely they won't.

And nuked world might be better than world in which Russian can do what it wants.