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Re:A brief reflection on Mac software stagnation by duped on Monday March 07, 2022 @10:01PM (#30595960)
Just personally, I use several of those "clunky" apps daily and they're more seamless than native counterparts. Particularly VS Code. Its biggest struggle is input latency, but if I really cared about that I wouldn't have left editing in the terminal.
Re:A brief reflection on Mac software stagnation by Semaphor on Tuesday March 08, 2022 @01:57AM (#30597170)
While I rarely use it, VS Code is great. But MS Teams? I feel as if I’m on a mobile device that’s running out of memory when I’m using it.

(Windows PC)

Re:A brief reflection on Mac software stagnation by lostlogin on Tuesday March 08, 2022 @02:18AM (#30597288)
It’s actually disgusting, and probably broken in several regards.

Why is functionally so different between the native app, web and teams. How is this an industry standard?

I edited a table, moved a picture and changed a footer. How can that be complex?

Re:A brief reflection on Mac software stagnation by aidos on Tuesday March 08, 2022 @02:34AM (#30597382)
We had to use Teams for the kids school over lockdown. What a dumpster fire.

On a daily basis you could never tell which method of extracting a document would or wouldn’t work. Sometimes they wouldn’t open at all. Or would only open on web, but not desktop (or the other way around).

Re:A brief reflection on Mac software stagnation by datavirtue on Monday March 07, 2022 @11:30PM (#30596465)
Yeah, I use VS Code as my terminal now. I love having the directory tree visible if I need or want to single click a file and play with it instantly with zero overhead. I use thunder client now instead of that dreadful postman obomination after learning about it here last week. VS Code is becoming my general purpose environment.

I was working in PowerShell ISE today and was thinking "this has to go" the whole time. So if I have any PowerShell work in the future I'm going to try the VS Code tooling for that.

I knew at least one person at Capital One who was using it for their Spring Boot project instead of Intellij.

Re:A brief reflection on Mac software stagnation by bdcravens on Tuesday March 08, 2022 @07:31AM (#30599161)
I have dedicated tools for most tasks like the terminal, git client, REST client, etc, but most of the time I use VS Code (built-ins or extensions); even when I'm making compromises, I prefer the workflow of staying on one screen.
Re:A brief reflection on Mac software stagnation by clumsysmurf on Monday March 07, 2022 @10:33PM (#30596141)
I agree, some of the "clunk" apps feel real nice. Problem is, when you have 4 electron apps running, and your system starts grinding.
Re:A brief reflection on Mac software stagnation by unfocussed_mike on Tuesday March 08, 2022 @02:41AM (#30597444)
I really have trouble with the idea that VS Code is "clunky".

Not least because one of the apps I used to use -- Panic's Coda -- had really severe keyboard lag issues in some situations, on hardware that should have been fine with it.

In my experience VS Code is plenty quick enough, not least when I am editing something inside a VM or on a remote server using the Remote SSH mode.

It might show a bit of keyboard latency but the Remote SSH mode more than makes up for this, for me; the sheer flexibility it offers me as a developer means I am going to ignore a bit of general latency.

And we've put up with worse in IDEs and programmers' editors, for sure.

One thing I would observe about speed complaints in VS Code is that they come from people who navigate through text mostly through keys; people with a vi or emacs back-story.

There is no doubt at all that it repaints more slowly than some editors when scrolling down through code line-by-line or page-by-page with the arrow keys etc., because of all the code actions that fire off when the cursor moves.

But it is not noticeably laggy when scrolling with a trackpad, because the cursor does not move.

This difference probably explains people's very polarised and simultaneously valid responses to VS Code.