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Re:Moscow police officers stop people, request their phones ... by pixiemaster on Sunday March 06, 2022 @10:46AM (#30578301)
I wonder when our Operating systems get some kind of „dual boot“ mode which can be used up hide private info, while being undetectable by even more than cursory examination.
Re:Moscow police officers stop people, request their phones ... by g_p on Sunday March 06, 2022 @10:58AM (#30578395)
Android phones can implement multiple user profiles at OS level, and these can at least provide security against cursory visual inspection.

Ideally you'd use credential derived encryption for each user's storage area on the device, and avoid leaking the number of profiles on the device. The UX for that is "hard" - even a single login screen that (with a naive implementation) accepts 1 of N PINs would be vulnerable to a timing attack as the PIN is tested against each "profile".

There's a few gotchas around carrier services like SMS and voice calls (do these go only to the main user account?), but maybe in future you could see an eSIM per profile... Doesn't protect you against a colluding mobile operator though - ultimately it all comes down to your threat model.

Re:Moscow police officers stop people, request their phones ... by lqdc13 on Sunday March 06, 2022 @10:52AM (#30578342)
Not even dual boot. Just depending on the password/pattern entered, log in as a different user. It's possible to do in Android as an app. I've been meaning to write one, but it seems like lots of work and upkeep.
Re:Moscow police officers stop people, request their phones ... by g_p on Sunday March 06, 2022 @11:00AM (#30578412)
What you describe might be almost achievable using Android work mode, and an open source tool like Island - you can have a second instance of apps (like WhatsApp or signal or telegram) independent of the first instance, and you can turn work mode off if needed.

If your adversary knows about work mode though and checks if it's available, this won't help you much.

Re:Moscow police officers stop people, request their phones ... by teddyh on Sunday March 06, 2022 @11:06AM (#30578463)
Re:Moscow police officers stop people, request their phones ... by tapia on Sunday March 06, 2022 @10:59AM (#30578402)
That would be possible if our phones wouldn't be all locked up by the manufactures and instead we could install the OS we wanted... One can dream
Re:Moscow police officers stop people, request their phones ... by miloignis on Sunday March 06, 2022 @11:48AM (#30578821)
I've been daily driving the Pinephone Pro and other then super sort battery life because no support for suspend yet (~3 hours) its been great! Actually usable and quite a bit of fun. Not recommended to anyone who's not fully confortable installing their own linux distros and using workarounds, though. The future you dream of is coming!
Re:Moscow police officers stop people, request their phones ... by tapia on Sunday March 06, 2022 @01:55PM (#30580030)
I really hope so! I might get one of those to start playing a bit.
Re:Moscow police officers stop people, request their phones ... by fsflover on Sunday March 06, 2022 @02:43PM (#30580505)
There is also Librem 5 as an alternative.
Re:Moscow police officers stop people, request their phones ... by miloignis on Sunday March 06, 2022 @04:52PM (#30581640)
If you can get one! I preordered in 2018 and haven't gotten mine yet, while for approximately the same amount of money and less time I have also ordered, received, and used 3 different Pinephone editions.
Re:Moscow police officers stop people, request their phones ... by fsflover on Sunday March 06, 2022 @05:29PM (#30581917)
See here about delivery progress: https://forums.puri.sm/t/estimate-your-librem-5-shipping/112.... Every time Purism can get the CPUs, they deliver another bunch of the phones. (I'm also waiting for my phone).
Re:Moscow police officers stop people, request their phones ... by gregoriol on Sunday March 06, 2022 @10:52AM (#30578345)
Apps that may have sensitive information could have a dual-mode: if you open the app, you only see your "public" content, and if you do some gesture that you configured (like drawing some shape on the screen but without a "lock screen"), you see the full contents.
Re:Moscow police officers stop people, request their phones ... by pixiemaster on Sunday March 06, 2022 @01:34PM (#30579821)
nice!
Re:Moscow police officers stop people, request their phones ... by nextlevelwizard on Sunday March 06, 2022 @11:43AM (#30578765)
Doubtful it will ever come as a standard. Mainstream operating systems are developed in US and things aren't that bad there. And when they start to become that bad there will be legislation to prevent such features.
Re:Moscow police officers stop people, request their phones ... by djbusby on Sunday March 06, 2022 @10:53AM (#30578352)
Web based services? Only use incognito mode? (Firefox on mobile can be configured to use Private mode by default)
Re:Moscow police officers stop people, request their phones ... by Zigurd on Sunday March 06, 2022 @11:51AM (#30578840)
Androids support multiple users and encrypted storage. Or you can reset your phone and restore it from cloud storage. Or use your second finger for biometric unlock, and lock up the phone on failing with your index finger.