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Re:Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe'... by ed_balls on Friday March 04, 2022 @05:09AM (#30552730)
demonstration nuke - it's called tactical nuke, which is different to strategic nuke. Imagine Ukrainian army winning and move towards Russia and Belarus. Putin may decide to fire a tactical nuke to "escalate to de-escalate"
Re:Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe'... by mulmen on Friday March 04, 2022 @08:52AM (#30554705)
If the Ukrainians push the Russians back to Russia then that is a de-escalation. The Ukrainians are not the aggressors here. I see no reason Ukraine would cross their own borders.

If Putin decides to escalate to nukes as a final act of failure then the de-escalation would be the complete annihilation of Russia as a country. In minutes.

The idea of getting away with a tactical nuke strike is insane.

Re:Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe'... by ed_balls on Friday March 04, 2022 @09:06AM (#30554867)
> I see no reason Ukraine would cross their own borders

to strengthen their negotiation position "We give you back X, you give back Mariupol"

> complete annihilation of Russia as a country

you think US would die for some village in Ukraine? They were plenty of US politicians and generals which were against nuclear umbrella for West Germany.

Re:Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe'... by mulmen on Friday March 04, 2022 @02:04PM (#30558937)
None of what you are describing makes sense.

If the Ukrainians can push Russians back why wouldn’t they do the same everywhere? Crossing the border becomes an act of aggression, only Russia has acted aggressively here. Everyone else is trying to avoid conflict.

If Russia detonates a nuke in Europe the entire country will be obliterated immediately.

Re:Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe'... by ed_balls on Friday March 04, 2022 @07:14PM (#30562405)
Ukrainians already have, there was a counter attack in the north of Dombas
Re:Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe'... by mulmen on Friday March 04, 2022 @09:15PM (#30563406)
That was a tactical strike on an airfield. They don’t hold Russian territory. They have not secured a bargaining chip.