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Re:How the weak can win – A primer on protracted war by lenkite on Thursday March 03, 2022 @11:49PM (#30550819)
Afghanistan defeated the Soviets and the United States.
Re:How the weak can win – A primer on protracted war by nicholasnorris on Friday March 04, 2022 @10:22AM (#30556035)
Afghanistan was different enough in that it wasn't a unified Afghan government or population fighting against a Soviet invasion in the same style of aggression of what we're seeing from Russia in Ukraine. A new local Afghan government that had recently sized power in a coup begged the Soviets to help them consolidate power in a civil war in that the Soviets knew would only escalate through international intervention in favor of their allies opposition.
Re:How the weak can win – A primer on protracted war by goatlover on Friday March 04, 2022 @12:49AM (#30551150)
Was it really a defeat for the US? Seems more like the US realized the futility of nation building there and just withdrew, hoping the propped up Afghan government wouldn't just surrender or flee.
Re:How the weak can win – A primer on protracted war by imwillofficial on Friday March 04, 2022 @01:42AM (#30551439)
It wasn’t a victory, it wasn’t a draw.

It was a defeat, no matter what coat of paint you put on it.

Re:How the weak can win – A primer on protracted war by tyingq on Friday March 04, 2022 @09:20AM (#30555093)
It absolutely was a defeat, but the asymmetric numbers get worse every year for a guerilla force fighting a huge war machine. The ratio of deaths for the US versus the Afghans was staggering...the Taliban won, but at a huge cost of life.

I don't know if there's the same cultural will in Ukraine to absorb that kind of pummeling.

Re:How the weak can win – A primer on protracted war by lenkite on Friday March 04, 2022 @01:11AM (#30551267)
That excuse for defeat can be given by any nation who withdrew from Afghanistan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Afghanistan_(2001%E2%80...

Result: Taliban Victory