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Re:Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe'... by jtbayly on Thursday March 03, 2022 @08:02PM (#30549215)
Thanks. So what’s the historical norm on those numbers?
Re:Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe'... by Gare on Thursday March 03, 2022 @08:09PM (#30549293)
0.1 microsieverts (uSv) per hour is normal background radiation rate. Right now in my apartment (far from Ukraine) the dose rate is 0.12 uSv/h.
Re:Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe'... by heavyset_go on Thursday March 03, 2022 @08:30PM (#30549462)
Is there a map service you're using to find the radiation levels at your apartment?
Re:Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe'... by Gare on Thursday March 03, 2022 @08:37PM (#30549520)
Nope, it's from Geiger counter on my desk.
Re:Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe'... by dylan604 on Thursday March 03, 2022 @09:35PM (#30549951)
Good lord, I love the understatedness of this comment.
Re:Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe'... by kortilla on Thursday March 03, 2022 @10:12PM (#30550207)
?

It’s a Geiger counter. It’s cheaper than having an oscilloscope, which wouldn’t be “understated” either.

Re:Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe'... by dylan604 on Thursday March 03, 2022 @11:30PM (#30550717)
Do YOU have a geiger counter on your desk?
Re:Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe'... by JohnBooty on Friday March 04, 2022 @12:58AM (#30551202)
Well, I just ordered one, which was not a thing I expected to do when I woke up today.

We'll see if it actually ships; seems lots of people have the same idea right now.

Re:Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe'... by ClumsyPilot on Thursday March 03, 2022 @10:02PM (#30550146)
The seem to be like £100 on amazon.
Re:Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe'... by dylan604 on Thursday March 03, 2022 @10:10PM (#30550195)
Yeah, but the fact that a Ukranian actually has one. I was going to make an "In Soviet Russia..." style joke, but a quick reading of the room suggested not good timing.
Re:Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe'... by kortilla on Thursday March 03, 2022 @10:13PM (#30550217)
Commenter literally said “far from Ukraine”. What are you talking about?
Re:Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe'... by dylan604 on Thursday March 03, 2022 @10:20PM (#30550291)
oh, you're right. i totally missed the word far on initial read. totally changes the everything.
Re:Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe'... by Gare on Friday March 04, 2022 @06:05AM (#30553135)
To be fair, I am around 500 km from the westernmost border, so not that far in American terms. We were affected by the Chernobyl disaster.
Re:Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe'... by yuliyp on Thursday March 03, 2022 @08:05PM (#30549257)
Most recent wayback machine sample I could find https://web.archive.org/web/20220226013028/https://www.npp.z... shows comparable to right now
Re:Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe'... by slimsag on Thursday March 03, 2022 @08:09PM (#30549294)
Can't say historical, but 1,000 μsv/year is the annual limit / point at which increase cancer risk exists.

Fukushima disaster levels were 400,000 μSv/h at peak. Short term dose of 10,000 μSv causes radiation sickness but probably not death. Beyond that it gets worse.

Re:Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe'... by mianos on Thursday March 03, 2022 @08:34PM (#30549490)
I can say historically, background is 1,000-3,000 μsv a year depending where you live.
Re:Fire extinguished at Ukraine nuclear power plant, Europe'... by isomel on Friday March 04, 2022 @01:27AM (#30551343)
According to the Linear-no-threshold model [1], any level of radiation, no matter how small, causes cancer. According to this model, the 1,000 μsv/year of normal background radiation already cause cancer for 1% of people. And any additional dose increase the risk further.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_no-threshold_model

However this model is contested. And the analysis on the cancers incidence in Hiroshima and Nagasaki and Chernobyl seems to indicate that this model is flawed. The exact model is difficult to estimate because of the low number of extra cancer is lost in the noise.