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Re:It's now your fault they don't know about it by dspillett on Thursday March 03, 2022 @01:31PM (#30544783)
The super needy table may not be likely to tip well no matter how much you bend over for them anyway. Though they are unfortunately also the most likely to leave exaggerated (or even half or more completely made up) bad reviews over the smallest detail that they see as having been wrong.
Re:It's now your fault they don't know about it by gnicholas on Thursday March 03, 2022 @02:53PM (#30545919)
As a startup founder, I've realized that people who send very angry missives are usually people who can be very strong advocates. Although it can be tough to bite my tongue and not respond sharply to someone who sends a profanity-laced email, it's definitely the right thing to do.

Nearly everyone who curses in their first email will apologize upon receiving an email from the founder. They were probably just having a bad day and assumed that $Company was some corporate powerhouse trying to nickel and dime their customers.

There's about 5% of people who persist in nastiness.

But almost everyone ends up being happy about the interaction, many end up renewing their subscriptions, and some will even email other companies asking them to integrate our technology. Sometimes the root of the frustration was that our service didn't work better with other platforms, which is something we can't control on our own.

So having these very excitable folks sending emails on our behalf can be a powerful thing. It just requires biting your tongue instead of replying in the heat of the moment!

Re:It's now your fault they don't know about it by orthecreedence on Thursday March 03, 2022 @06:44PM (#30548648)
I can echo this. I run a smallish app with a decent following, and once in a while I'll get a "Your worthless app lost all my data, @#$% you!" email. A simple, "Hey, sorry to hear your having problems...tell me what's going on" does wonders.

I try to remember this when I interact with people in any medium (including in-person). Snark/anger/sarcasm are often just the envelope for the content of a message. If you don't let it affect you, you can respond to the content of the message, not the delivery, and break down a number of walls instantly. And as a bonus you're not giving someone else control over your emotional state.

That said, some people are just abusive idiots and you kind of have to have a sense for when you're wasting your energy.

Re:It's now your fault they don't know about it by droopyEyelids on Thursday March 03, 2022 @05:07PM (#30547696)
Having worked in a few startups and waited tables, I'm confident the angry tech customers are not the same people who are demanding in a restaurant. It sounds similar but you're talking about entirely different people.

The angry tech customer generally cares about a problem they're trying to solve. The demanding restaurant patron is focused on the feeling of exercising power over someone subservient to them.

Any overlap between those groups of people is random.

Re:It's now your fault they don't know about it by marcosdumay on Thursday March 03, 2022 @03:42PM (#30546680)
> There's about 5% of people who persist in nastiness.

The thing with real stores is that all the assholes are from this group. The ones that are having a bad day may react badly to something, but do not go out of their way to create problems.

What means that real stores have many fewer problem customers. But they can't count on them changing either.

Re:It's now your fault they don't know about it by gnicholas on Thursday March 03, 2022 @04:16PM (#30547110)
Yeah, change is harder when the timeframe is limited. I can reply to an email a couple hours later, when someone might be in a different mood. In a store, there's much less time for a change of attitude.
Re:It's now your fault they don't know about it by Talanes on Thursday March 03, 2022 @04:27PM (#30547249)
Yeah, the population of angry people that public-facing workers have to deal with is different than the group who writes angry emails that reach the founder. Immediate reactionary anger vs focused and articulated anger.
Re:It's now your fault they don't know about it by dspillett on Friday March 04, 2022 @05:49AM (#30553022)
There is quite a bit of difference between someone caring about what is, to them, a significant inconvenience, which is I think what you are describing with those who send angry missives about services, and those who nitpick everything constantly, in many small complaints, like the overly needy customer in a services industry.

The angry message to a tech service provider can often be a last ditch attempt at resolution. An angry review of a restaurant is usually little more than a public “fuck you”: they aren't getting further business from that customer.

Re:It's now your fault they don't know about it by dexterdog on Thursday March 03, 2022 @01:55PM (#30545104)
Which is why people who know people know that reviews are largely useless.
Re:It's now your fault they don't know about it by whimsicalism on Thursday March 03, 2022 @02:14PM (#30545374)
I disagree - but negative reviews certainly almost always are.
Re:It's now your fault they don't know about it by goodcanadian on Thursday March 03, 2022 @04:11PM (#30547048)
I find the negative reviews the most useful, not individually, but in aggregate. If several people complain about the same thing, it might actually be an issue. A well written and thoughtful negative review can also contain useful information. If the negative reviews all seem to be random bitching, however, I know the place/product/service is probably fine.
Re:It's now your fault they don't know about it by hedora on Friday March 04, 2022 @12:09AM (#30550930)
I find the negative reviews are usually the most informative. If all of a restaurant's bad reviews are about service or exceptional situations, that's a strong endorsement for the quality of the food.

Pictures of health code violations and stories of health code violations usually raise some red flags (especially if recent). Those are too easy to fake.

The most useful ones are when they go through exactly what they thought was right/wrong with the food (and a pattern emerges across the pictures and multiple reviews about different dishes).

Re:It's now your fault they don't know about it by rhacker on Thursday March 03, 2022 @02:39PM (#30545697)
Well, if you're talking about a 4.4 restaurant, they are probably meaningless. There's probably a couple of TRUE negative reviews in there.

If the restaurant is a 3.1, then yeah, try to find a different place - there IS hair in the food, the cockroaches are real and the waitress DID stick the hotdog up the you know what.

Re:It's now your fault they don't know about it by jet_32951 on Thursday March 03, 2022 @06:01PM (#30548222)
Do you not find the dispersion of ratings more interesting than the averages? Within most sites that promote ratings there is often a standard-ish dispersion, and an outlier is of far greater concern to me than the average. A solid 3 for a budget restaurant is of far lower concern than a bathtub distribution, which suggests your visit is a crapshoot.
Re:It's now your fault they don't know about it by whimsicalism on Thursday March 03, 2022 @02:40PM (#30545706)
I'm talking about actually reading the reviews, not looking at the average.
Re:It's now your fault they don't know about it by ivberrOg on Thursday March 03, 2022 @02:52PM (#30545893)
Is this really a thing? I know that I'm much more likely to share a negative experience and completely forget a positive.. I'd always assumed we were all like that!
Re:It's now your fault they don't know about it by mst on Thursday March 03, 2022 @04:58PM (#30547609)
I suspect it works out kinda like wikipedia/reddit/etc. being mostly written by a small number of people with high output volume.
Re:It's now your fault they don't know about it by sneak on Thursday March 03, 2022 @02:19PM (#30545437)
Unfortunately for restaurateurs this isn't most people, as reviews are prominently displayed on search results.