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Re:Estonian Cargo ship sinks off Odessa after explosion, cre... by whimsicalism on Thursday March 03, 2022 @12:45PM (#30544126)
Reports by the Ukrainian military. TBH, many of the direct reports put out by the Ukrainian military have later been retracted.

For instance, Ukrainian military claimed that tank that drove over civilian car in Kyiv was Russian, but it was Ukrainian.

Re:Estonian Cargo ship sinks off Odessa after explosion, cre... by okl on Thursday March 03, 2022 @12:53PM (#30544235)
> For instance, Ukrainian military claimed that tank that drove over civilian car in Kyiv was Russian, but it was Ukrainian.

IIRC, they claimed that it was an Ukrainian Strela-10 that was captured by an illegal combatant. Regardless, I just wanted to point at that piece of information without claiming that it was true.

Re:Estonian Cargo ship sinks off Odessa after explosion, cre... by allisdust on Thursday March 03, 2022 @12:49PM (#30544169)
Wait how did that happen. Was it a mistake on the tank crew's part?
Re:Estonian Cargo ship sinks off Odessa after explosion, cre... by adolph on Thursday March 03, 2022 @01:00PM (#30544340)
IIRC it looked like a BMP backing up into a roadway. If it was buttoned up then at best the vehicle commander might have a glimpse of a car. The driver never saw it, just felt a shift in vehicle level. If it was Ukrainian I don't see an excuse to fail to have a ground guide.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMP_development

Re:Estonian Cargo ship sinks off Odessa after explosion, cre... by throwaway0a5e on Thursday March 03, 2022 @12:54PM (#30544254)
The tank was maneuvering at high speed because it was engaged in a firefight and briefly lost control. Nobody was seriously injured.
Re:Estonian Cargo ship sinks off Odessa after explosion, cre... by zatertip on Thursday March 03, 2022 @12:52PM (#30544222)
Source?
Re:Estonian Cargo ship sinks off Odessa after explosion, cre... by okl on Thursday March 03, 2022 @12:55PM (#30544272)
From what I've read the Russians said that they didn't use this type of vehicle in that location and it didn't carry their markings. But see my other comment to parent.