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Re:China asked Russia to delay war until after Olympics, Bid... by rightbyte on Wednesday March 02, 2022 @05:12PM (#30533943)
That applies to UA armor too.

Way harder to do hit and runs on road columns when you can't fall back to where ever but have to follow roads your self.

Re:China asked Russia to delay war until after Olympics, Bid... by jacquesm on Wednesday March 02, 2022 @05:17PM (#30534007)
Defender advantage is substantial in situations like that. Moving targets are a lot harder than stationary ones. Ukraine armor is concentrated around the main cities instead of strung out in long vulnerable stationary lines.
Re:China asked Russia to delay war until after Olympics, Bid... by throwaway6734 on Wednesday March 02, 2022 @05:19PM (#30534040)
Ukraine also has javelins and other shoulder fired anti tank weapons
Re:China asked Russia to delay war until after Olympics, Bid... by withinboredom on Wednesday March 02, 2022 @05:27PM (#30534137)
Anything you hit with those is pure luck.

Source: experience.

Edit: I was thinking of what we had in the Army, which was definitely not guided.

Re:China asked Russia to delay war until after Olympics, Bid... by chrisseaton on Wednesday March 02, 2022 @05:29PM (#30534183)
> Anything you hit with those is pure luck.

I've never seen a Javelin miss in my entire life. They've got like 5,000 recorded successful engagements.

> Source: experience.

Are you firing them before they've got a chance to get the sensor down to temperature?

Re:China asked Russia to delay war until after Olympics, Bid... by Tuna-Fish on Wednesday March 02, 2022 @05:32PM (#30534221)
Er, no. Javelin is guided. They are videos of them doing some really amazing long-range shots.
Re:China asked Russia to delay war until after Olympics, Bid... by tome on Wednesday March 02, 2022 @05:39PM (#30534329)
Re:China asked Russia to delay war until after Olympics, Bid... by tablespoon on Wednesday March 02, 2022 @05:45PM (#30534422)
> For example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sah9nbGQLFY

I guess you posted that for the compiled footage, but Lord do I hate voice synthesized narration.

From my armchair, it seems totally practical to hit-and-run attack the convoy on foot using fire-and-forget Javelins from 1.5-2 miles away. If the terrain is impassible to vehicles, the attacker can just shoot from the top of a hill and run away down the other side (maybe without even being seen).

Re:China asked Russia to delay war until after Olympics, Bid... by ModernMech on Wednesday March 02, 2022 @06:02PM (#30534636)
Also, it strikes me that there are only 1000 tanks in the force. It seems like such a small number contrasted against 100,000 soldiers. That seems like a tractable number of tanks to destroy.
Re:China asked Russia to delay war until after Olympics, Bid... by raxxorrax on Thursday March 03, 2022 @03:12AM (#30538448)
1000 tanks are quite a lot. I think future wars will feature less of them aside from power projection. But for occupations they are pretty vulnerable targets despite their armor.
Re:China asked Russia to delay war until after Olympics, Bid... by jacquesm on Wednesday March 02, 2022 @06:14PM (#30534786)
54 down, still a ways to go:

https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-docum...

Note that that is a lower bound.

Re:China asked Russia to delay war until after Olympics, Bid... by lupire on Friday March 04, 2022 @10:55AM (#30556445)
Tabks are hard to use unless the terrain is ideal. Maybe great for driving across dry countryside and lifht rubble and mowing down infantry, but not for occupying a city you don't want to flatten.
Re:China asked Russia to delay war until after Olympics, Bid... by tome on Wednesday March 02, 2022 @05:48PM (#30534463)
That's interesting. I didn't even notice that! I suppose I found the footage sufficiently compelling to distract me.
Re:China asked Russia to delay war until after Olympics, Bid... by cutemonster on Thursday March 03, 2022 @08:30AM (#30540705)
Might the javelin fail to hit the tank, by accidentally homing in on one of the trucks next to it instead?

From what I've read, they have too few javelins already

Re:China asked Russia to delay war until after Olympics, Bid... by Tuna-Fish on Thursday March 03, 2022 @08:49AM (#30540936)
You lock the missile on a target while aiming it. The seeker will remain locked to exactly that target until it hits. Only way it's hitting a neighbouring truck instead is if that's what you aimed at when you pressed fire.
Re:China asked Russia to delay war until after Olympics, Bid... by cutemonster on Thursday March 03, 2022 @11:43AM (#30543307)
Ok. I suppose this works also if the tank moves -- but if it gets out of sight, let's say a truck drives in front of the tank, then might the javelin miss?

Or is the javelin so high up in the air, so it could typically see the tank anyway?

Re:China asked Russia to delay war until after Olympics, Bid... by Tuna-Fish on Thursday March 03, 2022 @04:42PM (#30547422)
Yes, in principle, obstructions could make it miss. But also yes, Javelins fly lofted arc trajectories, unless you take the shot a half a second before the target is obstructed, the missile will almost certainly be able to maintain lock even if something obstructs your view of the target.
Re:China asked Russia to delay war until after Olympics, Bid... by rad_gruchalski on Wednesday March 02, 2022 @05:45PM (#30534415)
I too sucked at CoD.
Re:China asked Russia to delay war until after Olympics, Bid... by littlestymaar on Wednesday March 02, 2022 @05:54PM (#30534536)
We aren't talking about RPG-7 here, but ATGM (which, as the name imply, are guided missiles).
Re:China asked Russia to delay war until after Olympics, Bid... by newuser94303 on Wednesday March 02, 2022 @05:42PM (#30534382)
In close quarters and urban environments, I would think that it would be hard to miss
Re:China asked Russia to delay war until after Olympics, Bid... by na85 on Wednesday March 02, 2022 @05:39PM (#30534338)
Saint Javelin never misses.