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Re:I have formally accepted the CEO job at Cruise once again by toomuchtodo on Monday February 28, 2022 @05:33PM (#30506091)
I don’t believe Autopilot, a robust driver assist system with substantial safeguards, is irresponsible (as someone who has used it for ~60k miles of travel). I do believe allowing people to die because you don’t want to replace a defective ignition switch is. That’s not whataboutism, it’s pointing out hypocrisy. NHTSA believes Autopilot is safe enough to continue to allow its use on public roads. What makes a random HN participant a superior authority on the topic than them? Is it materially unsafe because someone here asserts so without backing up their claim? These are not rhetorical questions. 3700 people die per day from auto accidents that are ~95% human error caused and 12 deaths total while Autopilot was active is irresponsible?

Death is unavoidable, only preventable short term on a scale. To expect zero deaths is unreasonable.

Re:I have formally accepted the CEO job at Cruise once again by davewritescode on Monday February 28, 2022 @08:26PM (#30507943)
The big problem with Autopilot is the sleazy way it’s been marketed and sold to customers and regulators versus what the system really is. Charging folks $10k for an option with the CEO insisting that “full self driving” is shipping next year is borderline fraud.

I won’t buy a GM product and I won’t buy a Tesla product either, happy?

Re:I have formally accepted the CEO job at Cruise once again by bastawhiz on Monday February 28, 2022 @08:57PM (#30508277)
It's worth being precise about the terminology: Autopilot comes with the car (autosteer), FSD is what costs $10k extra.

Conflating the two makes it harder to have a conversation about what either actually is or does.

Re:I have formally accepted the CEO job at Cruise once again by dncornholio on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @08:11AM (#30513657)
But, they are both scams.
Re:I have formally accepted the CEO job at Cruise once again by bastawhiz on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @09:40PM (#30523002)
Autopilot (name aside) does the same exact thing that most car manufacturers offer in luxury cars. So I'm not sure what part you think is a scam.
Re:I have formally accepted the CEO job at Cruise once again by dncornholio on Thursday March 03, 2022 @09:11AM (#30541225)
You just have answered your own question :)