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Re:Global chip shortage may soon turn into an oversupply crisis by ok123456 on Sunday February 27, 2022 @02:46PM (#30491812)
People will shell out insane amounts of money because of the Jeep brand. Clapped out, 10-year-old ones still can get $20k, even if you tried to take it remotely "off-road" it would break in 10 different ways.

If people made purely rational decisions when purchasing a car, the only manufactures left would be Toyota and Honda.

Re:Global chip shortage may soon turn into an oversupply crisis by seanp2k2 on Sunday February 27, 2022 @10:49PM (#30496182)
and meanwhile, they get bested by old Toyota trucks off road https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9Yy5P6FUes

Always hilarious when people build $100K+ off-road ridiculous trucks, as unless you're totally loaded and don't care about smashing it up, it's going to get babied off-road or just never see more than a regular camping trip or some gravel. Actual hard-core off-roaders aren't driving super-expensive rigs; they're in crapcan K5 Blazers, Suzuki Samurais, old but built jeeps, tube frame customs, and side-by-sides. $40k in a SxS will get you about what a jeep would for 2x that money.

Don't even get me started on the bro dozer poser trucks. Those just exist to intimidate other people on the road, and with bumpers so high and tires + ground clearance that could easily run over something like a Corvette, they shouldn't be allowed on public roads. If only we had real vehicle inspection like some in the EU do.

Re:Global chip shortage may soon turn into an oversupply crisis by jlawer on Sunday February 27, 2022 @05:43PM (#30493537)
> If people made purely rational decisions when purchasing a car, the only manufactures left would be Toyota and Honda.

Not sure if this is different regions or just dated. In Australia now, Honda is a joke. They are overpriced, offer terrible support, etc. Toyota is quality beige, overpriced but reliable, kind of like Sony TVs 15 years ago before Samsung and LG became dominate.

Just like with TVs, the Korean companies (Hyundai & Kia) are the smart money brands at least in the Australian Market.

Re:Global chip shortage may soon turn into an oversupply crisis by ok123456 on Sunday February 27, 2022 @06:00PM (#30493707)
Kia/Hyundai (they're basically the same company since they own each other) have had a horrible track record in the last few years. They cannot build an engine to save their lives. They scrimped on the quality of the piston rings and other internal components and they ware out very quickly.

A Kia with 150k miles is end of life, but a Honda/Toyota with that mileage is basically still being broken in, yet the Honda only has a $2k premium over the Kia.

Re:Global chip shortage may soon turn into an oversupply crisis by lachstar-x on Sunday February 27, 2022 @10:22PM (#30496005)
Don't they use Mitsubishi engines across the board?
Re:Global chip shortage may soon turn into an oversupply crisis by ok123456 on Sunday February 27, 2022 @10:48PM (#30496177)
They manufacture their own. The design comes from a subsidiary.
Re:Global chip shortage may soon turn into an oversupply crisis by shahar2k on Monday February 28, 2022 @03:42PM (#30504844)
a slightly off topic question from a novice with some messy off roading experience... is there a decent, efficient, smaller off road capable car? my current level of experience is driving through deepish (several inches) snow in chains and rocky road terrain in the eastern sierras .... in a subaru impreza... and honestly I really feel like I want to do this more!