>The 13 guards telling the Russian naval ship to fuck off (turns out they surrendered)...
... while I'm open to this being what actually happened, I can't find anything that suggests this. Even Reuters is still saying Zelensky says they died. Can you provide a source for this?
Edit: TASS, a Russian news agency, appears to report what you're saying, but that's quite a biased source and seems to be the only one I can find[1].
This means you cannot take any sides claims at face value. At the same time, you shouldn’t just ignore them and close your eyes to propaganda, as you’ll miss important nuggets of truth that are sprinkled throughout the narrative. The more information you get, from all sides, the more likely you will be to be able to piece together what actually is going on.
Hence why the comment above said “Russian media reports”, without five paragraphs of disclaimers that this is not gospel truth, as it assumed that people are able to think for themselves, and take Russian media reports for what they are, which is, while obviously an aggressor’s propaganda, not necessarily a falsehood.
I also didn't need "five paragraphs of disclaimers". I didn't even need five words of disclaimers. A simple "They're biased but..." at the start of that original comment and I wouldn't have felt the need to respond.
You don't need to overanalyze my comment. I simply think that if someone asks for a source and your only response is a source of questionable accuracy, that you should acknowledge that the source is not authoritative. I found it funny that this was happening in a conversation that was already about how many sources can't be trusted so I commented to point these two things out. It isn't any more complicated than that.
Ukraine is busy fighting for survival.
It looks like they look equal in your eyes, so RF is very weak and Ukraine is very strong.
That said, since I live in the west, I’m overwhelmingly exposed to pro-Ukraine propaganda, and very little to pro-Russia propaganda. Almost none of it is, of course, paid for by Ukraine.
The site you've linked also has an article saying Biden is considering WW3 as a possible alternative to sanctions.
https://m-lenta-ru.translate.goog/news/2022/02/26/3rd/?_x_tr...
https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3413919-state-border-gu...
The site seems legit despite the .net domain (cross-check with the Wikipedia article, where the URL has not been modified recently). Doubtful it got hacked as the latest articles do not have a pro-Russian angle.
RUS strategy is to flood the zone with conflicting information so as to create a 'wilderness of mirrors', create infighting in the opposition, and/or get people to give up on finding the truth.
Seriously, a broken analog clock that is correct twice per day is more trustworthy.
Indeed, but this is also Ukrainian strategy. It is in Ukrainian interest to push morale-increasing stories. Of course everything Russian media and government say needs to be taken as propaganda, but doing that while taking Ukrainian sides claims as highly accurate, is just wishful thinking.
But I will say that they are likely to be more accurate - after all, the Russians are the undisputed world champions of dezinformatsiya for at least 15 decades; Ukranians are at best their students.
And as for who is in the right and who is wrong in these events, it is 100% clear - Putin's govt and military are 100% wrong. He is an autocrat attempting to undermine a neighboring democracy, because the very idea of proper democracy at home, Putin sees as a threat to his power. He is happy to kill and gail opponents, from Navalny, to Magnitski, to Litvenienko, and the list goes on...
It is wrong, that is all there is to it. Stop trying to justify it, or play whataboutism games. Have a deep rethink.
Users are much too quick to assume that someone they don't like on the internet is a bot, spy, shill, astroturfer, foreign agent, you name it. This is pretty much the most common thing people throw at each other in online arguments. That's why we don't allow it here—see https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. If you or anyone thinks they have evidence of abuse, they should send it to [email protected] so we can look into it. Plenty of past explanation is at https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme.... For example, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27398725 is one in-depth post on the topic.
Btw, pointing a finger at others isn't a great way to respond when asked to stop breaking the site guidelines. I know emotions are running high, but that applies to everyone, and unless I'm mistaken you have a history of breaking the site guidelines here and being banned for it, and that tends to lead to getting banned again unless you take conscious steps to fix it.
And in case it helps at all, none of that means that I don't feel for your situation.
Thank you.
according to Western media who again has an interest in portraying Russian media as bad
We got strong beliefs that all Ukrainian defenders of Zmiiniy Island may be alive... The SBGSU and the Armed Forces, like the whole of Ukraine, have received hope that all of Zmiiny's defenders are alive.
https://www.facebook.com/100066866381279/posts/2850135637375...
But you said:
> ... turns out they surrendered...
So, in essence, you're doing the same thing you were trying to caution people about doing. People may, in fact, be spreading a story that's false, but you're also spreading a false story by saying "turns out they surrendered" when your own citation suggests they're still trying to confirm their surrender.
We all need to be diligent about confirming word-of-mouth stories and allowing time for their accuracy to be verified.
Every article I’ve read has been heavily couched in “allegedly”ies, “claimed”s, “reportedly”ies, etc.
Can you provide examples of the uncritical stories you’re alleging?
Right now, you have to check Reuters, the BBC, CNN, Fox News, Tass, People's Daily, and whatever is still up in Ukraine to get a sense of what's going on.
People's Daily, which represents the official positions of the CCP, is making vague general statements, but not endorsing Russia's position.
[1] https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/26/politics/fake-ukraine-videos-...
You just quoted word-for-word the tweet that you linked to without attributing it, then you don't link any uncritical media reports that the tweet is referring to.
Why on earth should I put more weight on your comment (a 39-day-old account), the tweets of Tucker Max, or the Tweets of some so-called former CIA officer that I've never heard of? My bullshit alarm is sounding.
Its obviously not a smart move to trust for example numbers of either side, that never worked in any conflict (unless you average them, but even then its just a guess).
As another user pointed out, there are videos of SAM vehicles passing villages near Kyiv, so it could have well been a russian one (but nobody here really knows). Anyway blame lies solely on invading russians for this one
We got strong beliefs that all Ukrainian defenders of Zmiiniy Island may be alive... The SBGSU and the Armed Forces, like the whole of Ukraine, have received hope that all of Zmiiny's defenders are alive.
https://www.facebook.com/100066866381279/posts/2850135637375...
In 2003, we just saw whatever CNN was feeding us but now anybody can become a CNN and you don't even need to be at the place of war.
Can I just point out how freaky this all is? We have never been more connected and have low barriers to access unlimited information, yet despite this, we have no bearing.
I LEGIT thought the whole Ghost of Kiev video was REAL the first time I watched it. It was only when the whole scene did not make sense——why would the Russian jet slow down and slowly ascent with a pursuing Ukranian jet and why would it use AA missile instead of opting for guns at such close range moving slowly?
It was only after this exercise in logic did I take a second look at the video and saw the person holding the camera was moving way too stable without the artifacts you normally get from software stabilization.
Many, many people saw that video and retweeted it thinking it was legitimate. I almost did too until I saw it a second time and realized Twitter's compression algorithms degraded the quality in an authentic manner that hides anti-aliasing and uncanny valley.
Games are increasing becoming photorealistic where I can't tell from preview thumbs (ex. Ride 4) and we are probably witnessing the cusp of a new type of war. Our morales can be influenced by the hour now thanks to social media and advancements in light ray tracing.
Like in 2011 I was certain that photorealism was far off because of the computation difficulties with real-time ray tracing, I had not anticipated the leaps in GPU, AI, Deepfake technologies as well as software advancements like Nanite and Lumen in UE5