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Re:Chernobyl power plant captured by Russian forces by paganel on Friday February 25, 2022 @04:31AM (#30465346)
To be fair Estonia's treatment of its Russian community fed right into Putin's propaganda machine, when you still have this: "7.3% are "persons with undetermined citizenship"" (to quote wikipedia [1]) ~30 years after the break-up of the USSR then you know something was not done right on Estonia's part when it came to really integrating the Russian community. The same partially goes for the condition of the Russian community in Ukraine, especially recently. This is of course not a discussion that we can have right now, in a neuter manner, so to speak, because there's a war just close to us (I'm from Romania myself), but going forward the people involved will have to look back and see when things starting going adrift.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russians_in_Estonia

Re:Chernobyl power plant captured by Russian forces by trymas on Friday February 25, 2022 @05:16AM (#30465652)
AFAIK like in Latvia - these people (mostly russians) had (and still have) 3 choices: go back to russia, apply for citizenship or be left as "non-citizen".

If after ~30 years after break-up of USSR you have not gone back to russia (because quality of life in Estonia or Latvia is probably better), or have not learned the language or do not want to pledge loyalty to the country - then such person is a problem to itself. My social anecdotal bubble tells me that most of such people are very pro-soviet-union, but somehow idea of moving back to "mother russia" scares them.

Also in most post-soviet states russian communities can live all their lives without learning local language, i.e. there are native-russian kindergartens, schools, even university programs, russian entertainment and they can expect and be able to communicate almost everywhere in russian. So where's the bad treatment?

Putin's propaganda machine will make shit up on the spot - treatment of russian speaking communities is one of them. Maybe you also believe that there's fascist junta in Ukraine or Estonia? russian troll industry are masters of fake news - that will flood everything with multiple bullshit statements.

Re:Chernobyl power plant captured by Russian forces by paganel on Friday February 25, 2022 @05:42AM (#30465807)
> then such person is a problem to itself.

No, that is a statement that I consider false. I do personally live in a country that has a sizeable ethnic minority (Hungarians/Szekely, depending on the particular region of the country where they live [1]), and many of them do not know the local/national language, which is Romanian. Many of my fellow citizens regard that as almost blasphemy, I (and the law itself) actually have the contrary view, those people have the same right to Romanian citizenship as I do, even if they don't/can't speak the Romanian language.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarians_in_Romania

Re:Chernobyl power plant captured by Russian forces by pedrosorio on Saturday February 26, 2022 @01:42AM (#30475642)
Perhaps the difference is that the historical relationship, and power differential, between Romania and Hungary is not exactly the same as the one between the Baltic States and Russia.
Re:Chernobyl power plant captured by Russian forces by marttt on Friday February 25, 2022 @05:46AM (#30465829)
True, the integration of the Russian minority has been a three-decade long political struggle in Estonia.
Re:Chernobyl power plant captured by Russian forces by dmitriid on Friday February 25, 2022 @06:55AM (#30466308)
Key word: propaganda.

While statelessness in the Baltic countries is a very controversial issue, I don't believe it'sas bad as people are making it out to be.

The absolute vast majority of those people don't care about the situation: they can work, they can travel through the EU and other countries, and they can play the victim card.

As a good example, Nils Ušakovs was the mayor of Riga, and his parents were stateless (and hi mother probably still is [1]). So its not like statelessness affects people other than the actual person (and the degree to which it affects them is very debatable).

[1] https://voxeurop.eu/en/a-russian-in-charge-in-riga/