Re:Putin orders Russian peacekeepers to eastern Ukraine's tw...
by hawk_ on Monday February 21, 2022 @05:09PM
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Isn't saying that energy sector won't be touched a few days before Putin's latest declaration showing our hand too much though.
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Re:Putin orders Russian peacekeepers to eastern Ukraine's tw...
by sitkack on Monday February 21, 2022 @05:16PM
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Don't those natural gas pipelines go through the Ukraine? Regardless of how they get destroyed, when they do, Russia will have everything it needs to justify a full invasion.
Re:Putin orders Russian peacekeepers to eastern Ukraine's tw...
by throwaway3b03 on Monday February 21, 2022 @05:26PM
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Wasn't that the whole point of NS2, to have a pipeline that doesn't go through Ukraine?
Re:Putin orders Russian peacekeepers to eastern Ukraine's tw...
by LargoLasskhyfv on Tuesday February 22, 2022 @08:21PM
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This map is not current. It lacks NS1 leading from Wyborg, Russia, most eastern Baltic Sea to Lubmin, Germany, since 2011, right next to Rostock in the western Baltic Sea(in the scale of that map). And NS2 mostly parallel to it, with the exception of starting in Ust-Luga, Russia.
Maybe try https://www.gie.eu/publications/maps/ for a more complete view.
Re:Putin orders Russian peacekeepers to eastern Ukraine's tw...
by _ph_ on Monday February 21, 2022 @06:39PM
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Right. And that is why many in germany oppose it. With the recent developments, it might be dead completely.
Re:Putin orders Russian peacekeepers to eastern Ukraine's tw...
by twelve40 on Monday February 21, 2022 @07:35PM
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> that is why many in germany oppose it
Hm... why? Because the Germans, out of goodness of their hearts, want the Russians to keep dumping the annual $1.5bil+ transit fees into Ukraine? It's the same exact dependency on the same exact gas, just delivered through a bunch of countries each grabbing a cut, instead of directly.
Re:Putin orders Russian peacekeepers to eastern Ukraine's tw...
by soco on Tuesday February 22, 2022 @04:58AM
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Maybe because some of them (like here and everywhere) put sometimes ideology before the wallet. We're to see though how many and how consequently.
Re:Putin orders Russian peacekeepers to eastern Ukraine's tw...
by zx85wes on Tuesday February 22, 2022 @07:10AM
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Easy to say for those who can absorb the higher energy cost. Millions of Germans can't.
Re:Putin orders Russian peacekeepers to eastern Ukraine's tw...
by soco on Tuesday February 22, 2022 @09:22AM
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I expect that Germany (the state) will shoulder some of those costs. But I'm not a German so I'll have to see what happens, because right now the project was officially put on ice.