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Re:Sweating the small stuff: Smartwatch developed at UCLA me... by Barrin92 on Friday February 18, 2022 @11:15PM (#30394382)
>“We’re entering the era of point-of-person monitoring, where instead of going to a doctor to get checked out, the doctor is basically always with us,” he said. “The data are collected, analyzed and provided right on the body, giving us real-time feedback to improve our health and well-being"*

Or alternatively, we'll enter a new era of medical surveillance where healthy people are turned neurotic by being subjected to unnecessary medical interventions because their watch tells them their stress levels deviate from the 'norm'.

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.” "

Re:Sweating the small stuff: Smartwatch developed at UCLA me... by colechristensen on Saturday February 19, 2022 @02:22AM (#30395075)
Some people can't handle this kind of information very well just like some people can't handle (alcohol|tobacco|social media|video games|sex|marijuana|fitness|etc.) I don't want to live in a world where we can't have things because some people don't handle them well. I would much rather teach people to be good at recognizing and mitigating their weaknesses than to prevent everyone from having access or insinuating things are generally bad which only affect a few.
Re:Sweating the small stuff: Smartwatch developed at UCLA me... by verisimi on Saturday February 19, 2022 @04:34AM (#30395702)
Its not about whether you can or cannot handle information.

The problem is that this information is not yours. There is an intermediary. There are the companies involved and the governance structure.

So, if the governance structure creates a rule that all watches should report to the government when there is a potential medical emergency, and even that you should be isolated and kept locked in - what can you do about it?

So, this is good information, but information in a different set of hands can be used against your interests.

Then you get into the idea that the government is here to help. I disagree. I think the government is here to govern, and that it acts against me in many ways even though I am doing nothing wrong.

Is it ok for me to have a different perspective? Must I accept the government constraints and the (self-serving) laws it writes? To statist (those who believe in the political paradigm on both the blue and red teams) I should apparently accept government dictats.

People seem to forget that everything the Nazis (National Socialists) did was legal too. A government (which is made up of people like you and I, only the seek power over others) can write appalling laws into the statute.

Anyway, it is naive to think that this is about information. This is another incremental step towards tyranny.

Re:Sweating the small stuff: Smartwatch developed at UCLA me... by Ataraxiaist on Saturday February 19, 2022 @06:43AM (#30396368)
At least in the US, I think medical information might be what saves us across the board.

I just think the future probably looks more like HIPAA laws than what we have had with a big tech data free for all.

On the other hand, I am not even sure a wearable that takes a blood sample is commercially realistic with medical laws. Sweat sample might be as far as you can realistically go.

Of course, 50 years out who knows.

Re:Sweating the small stuff: Smartwatch developed at UCLA me... by rootsudo on Saturday February 19, 2022 @03:10AM (#30395301)
I can't understand why some people can not. This information is just empirical data points.

The feedback loops for the other things are pretty bad, fitness isn't so bad imo.

Re:Sweating the small stuff: Smartwatch developed at UCLA me... by colechristensen on Saturday February 19, 2022 @01:56PM (#30399499)
It doesn’t matter if you can’t understand why as long as you accept that some do (or don’t).
Re:Sweating the small stuff: Smartwatch developed at UCLA me... by hackernewshell on Friday February 18, 2022 @11:43PM (#30394482)
I don't want to know my health status when looking at my watch. I'm neurotic enough. From college to nervous breakdown; I was way to occupied what my body was doing.

Apple must do marketing research, and decided most people want to know their vitals on a daily basis?

Re:Sweating the small stuff: Smartwatch developed at UCLA me... by kayodelycaon on Friday February 18, 2022 @11:59PM (#30394540)
The blood oxygen level has been useful to me. I have both asthma and anxiety. Figuring out what’s an asthma attack and what’s a panic attack is helpful.
Re:Sweating the small stuff: Smartwatch developed at UCLA me... by kadoban on Saturday February 19, 2022 @12:16AM (#30394601)
Have you found one that's actually anything like accurate? Every smartwatch I've tried either reads way low or has some other ~obvious sign of not being correct.
Re:Sweating the small stuff: Smartwatch developed at UCLA me... by kayodelycaon on Saturday February 19, 2022 @08:01AM (#30396841)
My Apple Watch seems accurate enough, if the pulseox reader I have is correct.
Re:Sweating the small stuff: Smartwatch developed at UCLA me... by hulitu on Saturday February 19, 2022 @03:21PM (#30400161)
How about being served ads based on your state ? Is this still ok ?
Re:Sweating the small stuff: Smartwatch developed at UCLA me... by abletonlive on Friday February 18, 2022 @11:47PM (#30394500)
I mean it's pretty useful information. Imagine seeing an indicator that tells you that you have elevated levels of stress, and then you can try different things to reduce the stress. Eventually you could learn, with pretty decent confidence, what works for you and what doesn't.
Re:Sweating the small stuff: Smartwatch developed at UCLA me... by tpoacher on Saturday February 19, 2022 @09:13AM (#30397248)
Old Lamplighter? Is that you?