Taking turns and sharing is reasonable when there is a fixed pie, such as you're in a lifeboat with 3 others and a gallon of water, or you're in a classroom with a fixed supply of Legos. However, fixed pies almost never happen in a free market, and are not a valid model for a free market.

I've seen socialists before using fixed pie economics in classrooms to extol the evils of free markets.

The Monopoly game was invented by a socialist to show how bad free markets are. Of course, it's a fixed pie game.

Yeah, clearly we can just fabricate our way to more land in desired areas, nothing fixed pie about that at all.

I agree that most things aren’t fixed pie. But some of the most important things in life are, and people who get lucky in that regard have a massive advantage.

> clearly we can just fabricate our way to more land in desired areas

We do it all the time:

1. multistory buildings

2. vertical farms

> land in desired areas

While we’re not fabricating land (yet), we are certainly manufacturing desire.

Isn't the whole world a fixed pie? Sure, technological advances let us make more efficient use of our resources, but they're still finite.

> Isn't the whole world a fixed pie?

Nope. We use energy to transform valueless things into ever more valuable things.

Someday our current cheap energy will run out, and we'll just have to divide up what we have left. At least, that's what I hear. People have been predicting this for a while, and it hasn't happened yet (at least where I live in the US), but that doesn't mean it won't.

The Earth is just a dot in the sphere around the Sun through which all the Sun's energy passes.

And eventually the sun will become a red giant, devouring the earth.

we have about 5 billion years to figure out a solution to that. I'm not too worried.

Monopoly was invented by a Georgist to illustrate the ills of land grabbing.

You can't subdivide a lot in Monopoly, nor build taller buildings on it.

So? That has no bearing on any ideology.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26881799

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9050666

It means it's not a free market. It is totally constrained by the made up rules making it a fixed pie game.

Not all ideologies that constrain free markets are socialist. Georgism even has libertarian variants.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geolibertarianism

I should also note that zoning laws and other regulations make the real world into a fixed pie game. And those are often completely apolitical, their only ideology being NIMBY.

Zoning laws, rent control, etc., are not a product of free markets.

And yet, they exist.