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Re:EU draft proposes identity requirement for cryptocurrency... by rasengan on Friday February 18, 2022 @03:45PM (#30390831)
Why not just ban anonymous payments period then. That’s weird.

Seems like this isn’t about anonymous payments at all?

Re:EU draft proposes identity requirement for cryptocurrency... by dathinab on Friday February 18, 2022 @04:03PM (#30391075)
They are already kinda banned.

Once payments are above a certain amount contact information must be collected as far as I know.

No bank transactions are anonymous.

Smaller money payments are anonymous, but mainly due to physical limitations creating enough hassle so that it can't be abused too much (without also braking the law). As well as historic reasons.

But did you ever consider that every bank note has a unique id which is tracked by banks when you pay in money (and I think) retrieve it?

Furthermore the EU as since basically it's creation slowly working on de-anonymizing payments wit the purpose of fighting crime and money laundering.

It's pretty much a straight forward continuation of pre-bitcoin invention policies.

Re:EU draft proposes identity requirement for cryptocurrency... by anononaut on Friday February 18, 2022 @03:48PM (#30390879)
That would require first eliminating bills and coins, a task I fear isn't very far down the road.
Re:EU draft proposes identity requirement for cryptocurrency... by horsawlarway on Friday February 18, 2022 @03:53PM (#30390947)
Nor are bills and coins nearly as anonymous as most people believe.

There's a reason every Euro note and US dollar comes stamped with a serial number...

Re:EU draft proposes identity requirement for cryptocurrency... by Jensson on Friday February 18, 2022 @03:50PM (#30390901)
Other forms of electronic payments already aren't anonymous.
Re:EU draft proposes identity requirement for cryptocurrency... by miohtama on Friday February 18, 2022 @04:03PM (#30391077)
Because if you are a politician who bans the crypto you won’t be ever elected again. Thus, you do it sneaky way.
Re:EU draft proposes identity requirement for cryptocurrency... by jacquesm on Friday February 18, 2022 @04:07PM (#30391134)
The disconnect with reality is quite astounding. Do you actually believe that the majority interest right now lies with crypto? 'Normal' people have heard about it but have never in their life used crypto for a payment.
Re:EU draft proposes identity requirement for cryptocurrency... by miohtama on Friday February 18, 2022 @04:32PM (#30391398)
Cryptocurrency regulation is being discussed in the US, in the EU, in Russia.

50% millenials hold crypto in the US https://cointelegraph.com/news/low-millennial-financial-well...

Top cryptocurrency users are in Vietnam, Pakistan, Ukraine and India https://blog.chainalysis.com/reports/2021-global-crypto-adop...

While cryptocurrencies may not matter for you, or people around you that you identify as normal, based on the facts the topic matters a lot for lawmakers, politicians and large audiences you may not know.

Re:EU draft proposes identity requirement for cryptocurrency... by jacquesm on Friday February 18, 2022 @04:54PM (#30391613)
50% of millenials is not 50% of the voting public. And yes, regulation is being discussed, that's what this article is all about. For pretty good reasons, the whole idea that there would be a forever unregulated way to transfer vast sums of money instantly is a pipe dream at best.
Re:EU draft proposes identity requirement for cryptocurrency... by miohtama on Friday February 18, 2022 @05:05PM (#30391732)
The article is about setting the reporting threshold to zero, not to some meaningful number that would prevent crime. What would be a comfortable purchase amount for you that you would like to have someone else to read your receipts?

For the perspective, the FAFT recommendation is $1000.

Re:EU draft proposes identity requirement for cryptocurrency... by jacquesm on Friday February 18, 2022 @06:13PM (#30392465)
That reporting threshold is a direct consequence of tricks like mixers and other anonymizers. It is a neat tech trick but it is also just another form of smurfing / structuring.
Re:EU draft proposes identity requirement for cryptocurrency... by miohtama on Saturday February 19, 2022 @07:31AM (#30396647)
Do you think there could better ways to automate smurfing detection that setting the reporting threshold to zero?
Re:EU draft proposes identity requirement for cryptocurrency... by louwrentius on Friday February 18, 2022 @03:53PM (#30390942)
As far as I know, digital payments were never anonymous, so there was nothing to ban in the first place.
Re:EU draft proposes identity requirement for cryptocurrency... by JumpCrisscross on Friday February 18, 2022 @03:49PM (#30390885)
Bad title. It’s requiring de-anonymisation for crypto transactions. Not banning crypto.
Re:EU draft proposes identity requirement for cryptocurrency... by dang on Friday February 18, 2022 @04:06PM (#30391112)
We've changed the title to one that uses representative language from the first paragraph.

Submitted title was "EU wants to completely ban anonymous payments with cryptocurrency assets".