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Re:Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account duri... by giobox on Friday February 18, 2022 @02:26PM (#30390000)
> There is no excuse, especially thanks to Valve for their work enhancing wine ecosystem and making your games work.

While Proton is great, it helps no one to suggest it's a solution to making all games work. There are absolutely enormous multiplayer titles still unavailable on Proton, if you can't play the games your friends play who cares if 99% of the rest of the Steam library works?

Again, I think Proton is great, and only getting better. It is not though a drop in replacement for a Windows gaming machine, for most people, yet.

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Re:Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account duri... by labster on Friday February 18, 2022 @03:33PM (#30390694)
And yet I know gamers who have fully switched to Proton. I’m too lazy, and have a windows box reserved for games; it would be PII-free if it weren’t for the darn Microsoft account. But for some, Proton is already a better Windows.
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Re:Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account duri... by smoldesu on Friday February 18, 2022 @05:31PM (#30392004)
It's not a feature-complete solution, but a good 90% of the games you own will "just work" without any additional tinkering required. Some games (like Overwatch) are just straight-up smoother running through Wine/DXVK: https://youtu.be/voXc1nCD4IA
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Re:Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account duri... by AnIdiotOnTheNet on Friday February 18, 2022 @03:05PM (#30390383)
Agreed on all counts. Proton (and WINE in general, really) is an impressive piece of work that has done wonders to make software available on Linux Desktop, but it is not a perfect solution. Personally, I'm sick enough of Microsoft's shit that I'm now willing to put up with Linux Desktop's shit instead and if that means I miss a few games, I'll live with it. I don't play competitive online games anyway.
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Re:Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account duri... by christkv on Friday February 18, 2022 @03:15PM (#30390480)
A friend virtualized his hardware and just assigned a dedicated gpu to the windows vm under Linux and gets close to native performance for games.
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Re:Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account duri... by giobox on Friday February 18, 2022 @03:18PM (#30390512)
This approach is a lot more hassle to setup than Proton, but it does yield some really great performance and ~100% game compatibility. I've been planning to go this way for my next desktop build (Windows gaming VM with native GPU pass-through).
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Re:Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account duri... by FreeFull on Friday February 18, 2022 @06:04PM (#30392355)
Not quite 100% compatibility, since some games intentionally detect if they're running in a VM, and refuse to launch, for anti-cheat purposes.
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Re:Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account duri... by smegger001 on Friday February 18, 2022 @07:35PM (#30393198)
As i mostly play single player titles me. Have been using linux as my daily driver since 2010, I play game that work on my system if they have a multiplayer and my friends are interested fine I might multiplayer with them otherwise i am fine on my own. I wont support bulshit and put up with MS on my machine just for a game, there are plenty of other things entertain me.
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Re:Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account duri... by OscarCunningham on Friday February 18, 2022 @02:33PM (#30390091)
They have promised they'll fix this for the Steam Deck, so there's a chance this will change in the next week.
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Re:Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account duri... by NeoVeles on Friday February 18, 2022 @03:38PM (#30390750)
They have also said they would implement a rating system of how well proton will run various games. From 'Perfect' all the way down to 'unplayable'.

I think it was their quiet way of saying they couldn't meet the standard they set, at least, not yet.

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Re:Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account duri... by randomhodler84 on Friday February 18, 2022 @04:46PM (#30391538)
https://www.protondb.com/ has been around for a while and provides all of this. I consult it before buying titles.
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Re:Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account duri... by idiotsecant on Friday February 18, 2022 @03:52PM (#30390921)
Is steam deck supposed to release next week?
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Re:Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account duri... by OscarCunningham on Friday February 18, 2022 @10:46PM (#30394254)
Yes, February 25th.
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Re:Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account duri... by crazypython on Friday February 18, 2022 @04:36PM (#30391430)
Which games specifically do not work? Proton has been improving rapidly.
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Re:Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account duri... by johnny22 on Friday February 18, 2022 @04:50PM (#30391566)
Games that require certain anti-cheats that either valve doesn't support or the dev doesn't opt into. It seems to be mostly related to multi player online games.

Also games that have issues with patented codecs, although valve is working around that by transcoding them to a different format, so they can play locally without the relevant decodre

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