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Re:From macOS to FreeBSD by hughrr on Friday February 18, 2022 @09:46AM (#30386348)
This. People need to buy a dock and stop whining. Or buy a desktop Mac in the first place and stop whining.

Oh I need Ethernet -> buy a dock (or fix your shitty wifi network).

Oh I need numerous USB devices -> buy a dock.

Oh I don't like BT devices -> buy a dock.

Oh I want to use some crusty old USB-A devices -> buy a dock.

Oh I want to use my mechanical keyboard and mouse -> why are you using a laptop? ... buy a dock

Dell sell a very nice Thunderbolt one that has 3x USB-A's, does PD, has two displayport outputs that work perfectly with the M1 macbooks (and PCs). I've got one. And it has a USB-A headset, mechanical keyboard and mouse connected to it and 2x 27" 4K displays with one single USB-C cable.

But screw all that I'd rather use the laptop built in devices (14" M1Pro MBP) and live a simpler life where I don't have a bunch of balls and chains hanging around forever.

Re:From macOS to FreeBSD by tjansen on Friday February 18, 2022 @09:55AM (#30386493)
... even better, if you can work with a single monitor, buy a USB-C monitor with built-in dock. They give you USB-A ports and sometimes also Ethernet. Dell has them in every size.
Re:From macOS to FreeBSD by ascagnel_ on Friday February 18, 2022 @10:02AM (#30386589)
This is what I ended up doing -- I got a (relatively) inexpensive LG 4K monitor with USB-C, DisplayPort, and 2x HDMI inputs, and the monitor has a built-in headphone jack and a pair of USB-A ports. Plug in one cable, and my laptop or tablet turn into an experience that gets you close-ish to a desktop (the iPad still has real issues when you're trying to run it primarily through an external monitor, mostly that it only occupies a small portion of the screen if the app isn't specifically designed to handle an external display).
Re:From macOS to FreeBSD by xtracto on Friday February 18, 2022 @10:37AM (#30387084)
Could you share the LG monitor model?
Re:From macOS to FreeBSD by ascagnel_ on Friday February 18, 2022 @12:48PM (#30388801)
LG 27UN850-W

It's a 2020 model, and they've updated it since then (the version listed on their website is 27UP850-W), but I don't think the panel itself has changed notably. I'd also recommend turning off the HDR support, especially if you're using it as a computer monitor -- all it seems to do is blow out reds and blues while undercooking greens.

Re:From macOS to FreeBSD by nudgeee on Saturday February 19, 2022 @06:16AM (#30396232)
I have this monitor too and love it, but there is one major caveat -- the USB hub only operates at USB 2.0 speeds (480Mbps) when using a single cable for both display and USB.
Re:From macOS to FreeBSD by ascagnel_ on Tuesday February 22, 2022 @04:12PM (#30433869)
This is an important caveat, but one I haven't stumbled over yet (I use the USB hub for M+KB and a 1080p webcam+mic, so I'm well under the 480Mbit limit).
Re:From macOS to FreeBSD by xtracto on Friday February 18, 2022 @03:41PM (#30390780)
Thanks a lot!
Re:From macOS to FreeBSD by slig on Friday February 18, 2022 @02:21PM (#30389964)
I got a Dell Ultrawide 38" for this reason. Unfortunately it has a charging USB-C bug that conflicts with Apple hardware and Dell doesn't care about. They explicitly tell that they only support Windows. The display is awesome, but still.
Re:From macOS to FreeBSD by tjansen on Sunday February 20, 2022 @03:39PM (#30409071)
Which bug? I also have a Dell 38", but never had any issues. Both MBP and a M1 Air work fine for me.
Re:From macOS to FreeBSD by slig on Monday February 21, 2022 @07:56AM (#30415381)
Re:From macOS to FreeBSD by Koshkin on Friday February 18, 2022 @10:47AM (#30387208)
Having to lug a dock around sorta defeats the promise of portability.
Re:From macOS to FreeBSD by hughrr on Friday February 18, 2022 @11:20AM (#30387672)
So does dragging around all the accessories that you "need" to plug into your laptop.

All I hear is the conflicting arguments:

1. I don't want to compromise on anything.

2. I want a laptop.

Re:From macOS to FreeBSD by brimble on Friday February 18, 2022 @02:34PM (#30390102)
You don't always know what you'll need to plug in to on a given day, when you leave the house.

Old Macs covered a bunch of those cases with built-in ports.

Modern ones cover a lot fewer so you have to carry more crap.

Re:From macOS to FreeBSD by hughrr on Friday February 18, 2022 @02:49PM (#30390247)
I’m not plugging in anything I don’t own for security reasons.
Re:From macOS to FreeBSD by brimble on Friday February 18, 2022 @03:08PM (#30390414)
Cool, you've flatly refused to assist/present-to the client, and will now be-fired/lose-the-contract.

See why people need to connect to stuff other than what they personally own?

Re:From macOS to FreeBSD by hughrr on Friday February 18, 2022 @04:41PM (#30391480)
I’ve never had that problem in 25 years of doing this.
Re:From macOS to FreeBSD by brimble on Friday February 18, 2022 @04:50PM (#30391570)
Lots of people use lots of ports that aren't USB-C, and are inconvenienced by having to carry dongles and extra cables if their laptop has very few kinds of built-in port. These people have actual needs and reasons behind their behavior. That's all. It's fine that you're not one of them.
Re:From macOS to FreeBSD by BeFlatXIII on Friday February 18, 2022 @03:54PM (#30390964)
Require people to throw away money on more docking stations? Not going to stop whining over that.
Re:From macOS to FreeBSD by ori_b on Friday February 18, 2022 @10:52AM (#30387282)
I don't want to carry around a collection of bits to have a fully equipped laptop. I want something compact that comes in one piece.
Re:From macOS to FreeBSD by hughrr on Friday February 18, 2022 @11:19AM (#30387647)
My laptop has all the right bits inside it. Doesn't yours?
Re:From macOS to FreeBSD by ori_b on Friday February 18, 2022 @11:49AM (#30388057)
Nope. No ergonomic mouse built into mine.