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Re:Avoid the Apple App Store by pmarreck on Thursday February 17, 2022 @11:30AM (#30374947)
Alright, I have to respond to this.

> Instead of offering developers a real userland, you get forced onto zsh because Apple would rather die than ship GPL later than v2.

    export BASH_SILENCE_DEPRECATION_WARNING=1
    brew install bash # if homebrew is installed
    chsh `which bash` # if homebrew is configured correctly
Done. I've been running without zsh just fine. oh-my-bash even exists! https://github.com/ohmybash/oh-my-bash

> Don't get it twisted, Apple hates you, and loves only money. It's only a matter of time until each and every Apple user is taught that.

No. Quod grātīs asseritur, grātīs negātur.

Re:Avoid the Apple App Store by Steltek on Thursday February 17, 2022 @12:10PM (#30375643)
Homebrew is not Apple so you're just reinforcing OP's point: you need to go to a 3rd party to get a CLI that's worth a damn.

Nor is Homebrew supported by Apple which is totally outrageous, given that without it, you might as well buy an iPad for how useful MacOS is.

Re:Avoid the Apple App Store by bastardoperator on Thursday February 17, 2022 @03:03PM (#30377942)
And yum, dnf, dpkg, apt, pacman, emerge, zypper are not Linux. Like brew they repackage software. Let's also not pretend that in the world of Linux I haven't had to add a 3rd party repo to get something working or look to community repos or even enable testing/unstable branches assuming I can get what I want working to work.

There are trade offs everywhere. Considering it takes an entire second to add brew to a machine, it's not a big deal or what I would hang my argument on. I've spent much more time messing with packages in Linux versus troubleshooting brew. I disagree it reinforces anything. I'm using a lot of rust tools on my CLI today and they're all available via brew, on Linux not always because the developer isn't targeting all of the different Linux package managers.

Re:Avoid the Apple App Store by Steltek on Thursday February 17, 2022 @04:20PM (#30378830)
You're classing essentially nonprofit Linux community efforts as "3rd party" then you're comparing it to one of the flagship products of one of the largest tech companies in the world. Are you even listening to yourself? This is absurd.
Re:Avoid the Apple App Store by pmarreck on Saturday February 19, 2022 @08:21AM (#30396957)
I actually wrote a pacman wrapper in Bash that makes it feel a lot more like Homebrew: https://github.com/pmarreck/pac