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Re:New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud... by dzhiurgis on Wednesday February 16, 2022 @05:07PM (#30366446)
I really don't get why motorcycles are legal at all - loud, terrible emissions, used for crimes, huge fatality rate, usually driven by a psychopath who loves revving his toy at 5AM at a residential neighbourhood.
Re:New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud... by ddoolin on Wednesday February 16, 2022 @05:30PM (#30366710)
> used for crimes

This gave me a chuckle. I have absolutely no data but I'm quite certain cars are "used for crimes" at a much higher rate than motorcycles.

Motorcycles are almost all manual, nearly invisible to other drivers, and prone to issues with the smallest of road hazards/obstacles, making them really risky to use as a getaway vehicle seeing as you'd need to be outpacing law enforcement much of the time. Add the adrenaline of "doing a crime" on top of that of high-speed motorcycle riding and you've really got a recipe for disaster in most cases. There was a stolen bike in LA being chased by the cops last month who collided with a car and the rider died. https://www.latimes.com/california/newsletter/2022-01-24/mot...

Maybe being "used for crimes" would be better since you're less likely to actually get away on them!

Re:New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud... by zucked on Wednesday February 16, 2022 @05:39PM (#30366817)
I think the OP is a little hyperbolic, but I wouldn't be so dismissive of the idea. My metro has a no-chase policy for motorcycles. Sure, it's a heck of a dangerous way to make a getaway, but as long as you can shake the first guy, a rider is pretty well free to make a getaway as long as there is no helicopter in pursuit.
Re:New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud... by ddoolin on Wednesday February 16, 2022 @07:28PM (#30367874)
Touché, I remember hearing about such a policy for the first time recently. That certainly could change the value proposition quite a bit!
Re:New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud... by dzhiurgis on Wednesday February 16, 2022 @07:56PM (#30368208)
> recipe for disaster in most cases.

hence why it wouldn't be legal if invented now (well probably most things won't)

good comparison would be passenger drones - super useful, universally hated, regulated to death.

Re:New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud... by kojeovo on Wednesday February 16, 2022 @05:13PM (#30366517)
Those things you listed are pretty much already illegal: Loud motorcycles with poor emissions. As for the fatality rate, it's mainly only impacting the driver. Forcing them to a car is arguably worse.
Re:New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud... by kelnos on Wednesday February 16, 2022 @06:55PM (#30367573)
> Those things you listed are pretty much already illegal: Loud motorcycles with poor emissions.

Good luck getting police to enforce that, though.

Re:New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud... by kojeovo on Thursday February 17, 2022 @11:18AM (#30374750)
Yeah enforcement is usually the issue. We are commenting on an article about a new way to enforce though
Re:New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud... by driverdan on Wednesday February 16, 2022 @05:37PM (#30366794)
I really don't get why computers are legal at all - create excess emissions from all the power use, used for crimes, generate hard to process waste, usually used by a psychopath who loves Tweeting about hatred for people not like them.
Re:New York is using cameras with microphones to ticket loud... by rabuse on Wednesday February 16, 2022 @05:27PM (#30366676)
"Used for crimes!". This sounds like that standard argument against crypto, when cash (cars) have done that since their inception.