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Re:Privacy Sandbox on Android by hunterb123 on Wednesday February 16, 2022 @02:02PM (#30364198)
Apple isn't an ad company.

Yes they have access to your data if it's not E2EE, but you don't have to worry about their core revenue stream conflicting with your privacy.

Re:Privacy Sandbox on Android by joao_lopes on Wednesday February 16, 2022 @02:13PM (#30364387)
But Apple does have an ad-network, and they do sell access to it. It might not be Google/Facebook-level yet, but nothing stops them from continuing that path as a means to generate more revenue in the future.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoetsier/2021/10/19/apples-... https://searchads.apple.com/

Re:Privacy Sandbox on Android by 1vuio0pswjnm7 on Wednesday February 16, 2022 @04:22PM (#30365872)
People always seem to ignore the obvious. In addition to advertising, Apple partners with third parties to sell stuff "directly" (with Apple as the middleman) to the computer owner after the sale of the computer is complete. Apple takes a cut. Music, e-books, software, etc. Apple wants credit card numbers for future use; most purchasers comply.

Buy stuff using an Apple computer and Apple makes money.

There once was a time when Apple computers were just computers, not an intended means for capturing further revenue after purchase by partnering with media companies and other sellers. There was no mandatory data collection after purchase. No submission of credit card numbers. I still have one of those Apple computers. The company changed. Whether that was in response to what other companies were doing, e.g., Google, "changes in the industry", etc., is left as a question for the reader.

A patent application from Apple some years ago described advertising embedded into the operating ssystem. (Imagine the computer refusing to boot until the user has viewed an ad.) Perhaps we could tell ourselves Steve Jobs was trying to protect computer owners from advertising by filing for claims to the most annoying advertising tactics imaginable, with the intent to never practice these inventions and to sue alleged infringers. No doubt online commenters will have more cogent explanations of what this application represents.

http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=H...

Re:Privacy Sandbox on Android by ethbr0 on Wednesday February 16, 2022 @04:03PM (#30365646)
There was a time when Apple wasn't an iTunes company, and then that started making them obscene profits.

There was a time when Apple wasn't an App Store company, and then that started making them obscene profits.

So yes, there is a time now when Apple isn't an ad company. We'll see how that goes.

Re:Privacy Sandbox on Android by 1vuio0pswjnm7 on Wednesday February 16, 2022 @04:50PM (#30366247)
People always seem to ignore the obvious. In addition to advertising, Apple partners with third parties to sell stuff "directly" (with Apple as the middleman) to the computer owner after the sale of the computer is complete. Apple takes a cut. Music, e-books, software, etc. Apple wants credit card numbers for future use; most purchasers comply.

Buy stuff using an Apple computer and Apple makes money.

There once was a time when Apple computers were just computers, not an intended means for capturing further revenue after purchase by partnering with media companies and other sellers. There was no mandatory data collection after purchase. No submission of credit card numbers. I still have one of those Apple computers. The company changed. Whether that was in response to what other companies were doing, e.g., Google, "changes in the industry", etc., is left as a question for the reader.

There was a patent application from Apple some years ago regarding advertising embedded into the operating ssystem. (Imagine the computer refusing to boot until the user has viewed an ad.) Perhaps we could tell ourselves Steve Jobs was trying to protect us by filing for claims to the most annoying advertising tactics imaginable, with the intent to never practice these inventions and to sue anyone who does. No doubt online commenters will have more cogent explanations of what this application represents.

http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=H...

Re:Privacy Sandbox on Android by 1vuio0pswjnm7 on Wednesday February 16, 2022 @08:41PM (#30368564)
Accidental dupe. Sorry about that.
Re:Privacy Sandbox on Android by yonixw on Wednesday February 16, 2022 @02:19PM (#30364460)
They are absolutely an ad company [1]. And they absolutely track stuff about you [2].

[1] https://pocketnow.com/apples-ad-business-5-billion-growth-ap...

[2] https://www.theregister.com/2021/04/01/android_ios_location/

"..According to Leith, Android and iOS handsets share data about their salient characteristics with their makers every 4.5 minutes on average."

Re:Privacy Sandbox on Android by marcellus23 on Wednesday February 16, 2022 @04:31PM (#30366002)
According to https://searchads.apple.com/privacy, the only user information used when showing ads is:

* details provided in your Apple ID profile (location, email, etc.)

* history of App Store downloads and in-app purchases

* contextual information like "device type, iOS version, time of day, device location, and search query."

In other words, while there are some privacy concerns here (really just device location, I guess), it seems like Apple is just using data from the App Store itself to serve App Store ads. In other words, no different than if Facebook only used information about how you use the Facebook app/site, rather than tracking your behavior across the entire internet.

I'm curious why you think this is comparable to what Google/Facebook does.

Re:Privacy Sandbox on Android by yonixw on Tuesday February 22, 2022 @03:33AM (#30425385)
You have the answer in your comment:

* history of App Store downloads AND ^^in-app purchases^^

So there is no difference in my opinion. Only PR jargon to make it sound better.