Where does the law say that hacking websites you don’t like without their permission is OK then?
If for whatever reason you don’t like what they are doing, just report that specific group to the authorities.
Oh dear. Just as extreme as hacktivist groups like Anonymous then who everyone knows that they are on no-one’s side.
Well, yeah. Whether the protesters are misinformed or not is irrelevant, they are seeking to highlight their grievances.
You can't very well claim that people should only be able to highlight grievances that they personally, individually and without any external influence ... came up with themselves.
A grievance is still a grievance even if it was brought to the protestor's attention by a foreign power, by a local politician, by their neighbour or by the invisible green elves who live at the bottom of the protestor's garden.
1. You don't get to gatekeep that a grievance is valid only if it comes from the right[1].
2. You don't get to gatekeep that any and all grievances from the left[1] are automatically invalid.
3. You don't get to gatekeep that some things are legitimate grievances and others are not. If 1000 verified working-class people with jobs are literally peacefully protesting, maybe you shouldn't be feeling threatened?
[1] Switch the words 'left' and 'right' in this comment; the point is the same.
That’s the point. Either you agree with both or neither
Granted, it didn't last as long as the trucker protest, but I feel like it's at least in the same ballpark.
And it’s not just “property damage” - they burnt those businesses to the fucking ground.
Sometimes with people inside them:
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/21/us/minneapolis-protest-bo...
PS why did GP get flagged? My views arent fully aligned with his but I don't think he wrote anything unacceptable. @dang can you review?
> It’s fucking disturbing to see people equate BLM protests with what’s happening here. It’s not the same.
Other protests met with stronger state resistance also also involved more aggressive protest behavior. Rights to free speech and assembly have very specific legal boundaries, but that boundary isn't defined by the level of inconvenience felt by the locals.
Yes parking trucks and gathering thousands of protestors in one city has both economic and social impacts, but I have yet to see any legitimate reports of a pattern of violence, destruction, or intimidation.
The city recommended that restaurants in the area close, and on at least one occasion the government was also attempting to have all hotel reservations in the city cancelled. If economic impact on Ottawa was the primary concern, why was no one calling for the government to stop interfering with local businesses that could have provided their services to the protestors?
Is this a bit? Really? People can’t leave their houses in masks lest they be followed and harassed by the occupiers. The Happy Goat coffee shop had a brick thrown in its front window (where a pride flag hangs) 400 meters from the main Ottawa Police station. Emergency vehicles are being blocked. A woman walking to work at Mu Shu was sexually assaulted. That’s just off the top of my head.
Kindly shove it.
Honking 120 decibel horns through the night for weeks is not inconvenience. It’s clear you don’t live here.
Also, it's not in your interests to post this way, because it discredits the position you're arguing for. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...
If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
Edit: also, we've had to ask you not to do this in the past, long before the current topic became a thing (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27319713).
Democracy isn’t dictatorship of the majority. It’s supposed to be about compromise and respecting individuals while the majority makes decisions.
The losers of every “election” or people who aren’t represented by the governing party have a right to protest to make their voices heard.
Perhaps undermining democracy is an overstatement, I meant undermining those in power for the minority.
What I’ve just written I think applies both to the goals and vision of BLM and anti vaccine mandate protestors, interestingly.
Multiple people were killed at CHAZ in Seattle and the organizer of that insurrection (which was as close to the dictionary definition of an insurrection as they come) suffered no legal consequences and is now selling T-shirts.
You call that "state resistance"?
Oh, unless the violence you are referring to was the tear gassing from cops. There was a shit ton of that.
What is unreasonable about ending mandates and rejecting the idea of the passport? I'm all for it!
Such script-kiddie behaviour should be reported to the authorities and they will trace the attacks back to them. They always do.