Re:Earth-like planet spotted orbiting Sun’s closest star
by anders_p on Friday February 11, 2022 @08:53AM
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You'd have to get very close to the speed of light, before you'd see any really significant relativistic effects.
That just isn't practically doable with any technology within humanity's reach, probably for centuries. If it ever will be at all.
The amount of energy needed to propel anything at that speed is enormous.
Re:Earth-like planet spotted orbiting Sun’s closest star
by rbanffy on Friday February 11, 2022 @09:24AM
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Unless my math is very wrong, at 0.9c the passenger perceived time is more or less half the perceived time from the departure point. That's already quite significant, although not something I could do over a vacation ;-)
In order to spend a leisurely "cruise-ship" week to Proxima you'd need to go very close to c. At that speed, even friction with a non-ideal vacuum is a problem :-D.
Re:Earth-like planet spotted orbiting Sun’s closest star
by jsjohnst on Friday February 11, 2022 @09:20AM
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> a trip to the next star can be a week-long affair from your point of view
You’d need to travel at around 233x the speed of light to make getting to the nearest star be a week trip, no?
Re:Earth-like planet spotted orbiting Sun’s closest star
by _Microft on Friday February 11, 2022 @09:40AM
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The effect is called time dilation. The section of interest here is „Time dilation caused by a relative velocity“:
Re:Earth-like planet spotted orbiting Sun’s closest star
by jsjohnst on Friday February 11, 2022 @09:42AM
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I’m aware of time dilation, my point was that a “week vacation” to something “over 4 light years” away is just hyperbolic.
Re:Earth-like planet spotted orbiting Sun’s closest star
by samatman on Friday February 11, 2022 @09:25AM
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Nope! If you obtain the full speed of light then a) you're not made of baryons anymore so congratulations on that and b) no time passes whatsoever between your being emitted in some tight laser beam on planet A, and being transcribed on planet B, from your perspective.
None. Photons don't experience time, they are time.
Re:Earth-like planet spotted orbiting Sun’s closest star
by rbanffy on Friday February 11, 2022 @09:30AM
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Not exactly. For you to think you are traveling 20x faster than light, your friends that stayed at home would have to see you traveling at 0.99995c. For 233x faster than light, that's a lot of 9's in that number.
Re:Earth-like planet spotted orbiting Sun’s closest star
by s1artibartfast on Friday February 11, 2022 @12:29PM
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I get 0.999c for 20x and 0.99999c for 220+
Re:Earth-like planet spotted orbiting Sun’s closest star
by rbanffy on Friday February 11, 2022 @02:15PM
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I'll trust your numbers more than mine.
But, for all intents and purposes, this is impossibly fast ;-)
Unless you are on the Bistromath, that is.
Re:Earth-like planet spotted orbiting Sun’s closest star
by s1artibartfast on Friday February 11, 2022 @12:02PM
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There is no faster than light, I can't parse this statement.
Re:Earth-like planet spotted orbiting Sun’s closest star
by psyc on Friday February 11, 2022 @12:20PM
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Distance divided by [time experienced by traveler]. GP is not saying that traveler went faster than light.
Re:Earth-like planet spotted orbiting Sun’s closest star
by rbanffy on Friday February 11, 2022 @09:24AM
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From the passenger's point of view, yes. For everyone else you'd be veeeery close to c, but not quite there.
If you get really close to the speed of light (which is not really practical from a materials engineering standpoint) your time of transit is significantly shorter.
Once these (extremely hard) engineering problems are solved, a trip to the next star can be a week-long affair from your point of view, but your friends back on Earth won't see you for about a decade.