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Re:Major breakthrough on nuclear fusion energy by pkulak on Wednesday February 09, 2022 @03:52PM (#30278323)
I kinda like that all but a couple outlets in my house can't kill me.

Also, I boil my water on an induction stove plugged into 50 amps at 220 volts. I'm not waiting around, to put it mildly.

Re:Major breakthrough on nuclear fusion energy by jjeaff on Wednesday February 09, 2022 @04:24PM (#30278705)
110v can easily kill you. It's a little harder to get a good solid connection through your body and into the ground than 220v. But it certainly can and does happen.
Re:Major breakthrough on nuclear fusion energy by 0n34n7 on Wednesday February 09, 2022 @04:42PM (#30278949)
Amps kill, not volts. Hence high voltage low amp Tesla coil spark shows.
Re:Major breakthrough on nuclear fusion energy by IntrepidWorm on Wednesday February 09, 2022 @04:55PM (#30279111)
Thats not quite accurate- it is true that high amp current is deadly in many scenarios, but it takes both amps and volts to kill. High amp, high voltage current is a killer for sure, but high current at sufficiently tiny voltages is not necessarily deadly. Similarly, high voltage at low currents is usually not deadly (but can be very painful).
Re:Major breakthrough on nuclear fusion energy by bigDinosaur on Thursday February 10, 2022 @02:04AM (#30283208)
You need to be introduced to a classic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDf2nhfxVzg
Re:Major breakthrough on nuclear fusion energy by Dylan16807 on Wednesday February 09, 2022 @10:35PM (#30282154)
Your comment is completely irrelevant to wall sockets because they can all supply more than a tenth of an amp.
Re:Major breakthrough on nuclear fusion energy by CamperBob2 on Wednesday February 09, 2022 @05:03PM (#30279188)
High voltage from a Tesla coil not only has low average current, but is subject to the skin effect. So while it can still cause a painful shock to your superficial sensory nerves, not much of that energy ends up in contact with the motor nerves.

TL,DR: you probably don't want to be shocked by a big Tesla coil, even though it won't kill you.

Re:Major breakthrough on nuclear fusion energy by ErikCorry on Wednesday February 09, 2022 @06:26PM (#30280240)
Never heard of anyone getting killed by the 230V power in Europe. A few people I know touched it and it does hurt.

Perhaps it's because all houses have residual current devices which trigger much faster than fuses if current leaks to earth (eg through a person).

Re:Major breakthrough on nuclear fusion energy by baq on Wednesday February 09, 2022 @04:07PM (#30278486)
30A at 400V is how we roll in the EU.
Re:Major breakthrough on nuclear fusion energy by orra on Wednesday February 09, 2022 @05:03PM (#30279181)
Wow. A typical induction hob in the UK is 32A at 230V. 230V is of course the nominal voltage of a single phase, although in practice in the UK the voltage is closer to 240V.

That's only 7.35kW of power. Do you have significantly more powerful cookers?

Re:Major breakthrough on nuclear fusion energy by kuschku on Wednesday February 09, 2022 @05:36PM (#30279573)
400V is only used for stoves or instant water heaters, but e.g. our stove uses 11kW actually.

If you don’t have these amounts of energy available, the temperature your instant water heater can reach or the speed with which you can cook obviously suffers (which I suspect is one of the reasons why americans prefer gas stoves so much).

Re:Major breakthrough on nuclear fusion energy by xxs on Wednesday February 09, 2022 @06:28PM (#30280265)
the 3phase is used for motors - a lot more efficient (and the better power factor) than the single phase ones.
Re:Major breakthrough on nuclear fusion energy by kuschku on Thursday February 10, 2022 @05:29AM (#30284462)
For industrial applications definitely, but at home there's few people who power motors with triphase or five phase power.
Re:Major breakthrough on nuclear fusion energy by baq on Thursday February 10, 2022 @06:44AM (#30284893)
these are 3-phase stoves, they require a certified electrician to install, because they don't have plugs and there's no wall socket - just a place into which you can easily connect cables.
Re:Major breakthrough on nuclear fusion energy by orra on Thursday February 10, 2022 @07:13AM (#30285086)
That makes sense. In the UK you can buy induction hobs that plug into sockets, but they are limited to a measly 3.7kW or there abouts. A nicer 32A induction hob needs hardwired (single phase).

You can have upgrade your domestic supply to three phrase, but AFAICT it's uncommon. Perhaps with electric cars and induction hobs replacing natural gas and petrol, it will become more common.