You can change your number

Re:You can change your number by toast0 on Monday February 07, 2022 @03:57PM (#30251017)

Applications can't determine when they're uninstalled. Or, not reliably anyway, and not while following platform guidelines. So the question becomes how to tell uninstalled vs left in a drawer, powered down, while on vacation.

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Re:You can change your number by mlissner on Monday February 07, 2022 @04:14PM (#30251270)

They just have to tell you if a message isn't received after a day or two. This is already exposed via the check marks, so it's just something they have to amplify with a notification.

Or when you start writing a message to somebody, if they haven't read the last couple messages signal could make that obvious. Etc. Lots of easy fixes.

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Re:You can change your number by seanw444 on Monday February 07, 2022 @05:33PM (#30252339)

Those both rely on the assumption that being offline for a little while = app uninstalled. Not always so.

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Re:You can change your number by mlissner on Monday February 07, 2022 @05:35PM (#30252359)

They can just say the message wasn't received. They don't have to say it was uninstalled. Just loudly tell me things aren't working like I expected. That's all this takes.

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Re:You can change your number by guerrilla on Monday February 07, 2022 @10:07PM (#30254493)

You could just check for yourself if it's important. I do.

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Re:You can change your number by Vinnl on Tuesday February 08, 2022 @04:43AM (#30256538)

There are multiple anecdotes in this thread, on HN, that people missed that. All GP is asking for is better UX making it more obvious, because being able to check is something other than knowing to check and how to check.

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Re:You can change your number by guerrilla on Tuesday February 08, 2022 @12:49PM (#30261738)

It's the exact same UX as SMS, Telegram, WhatsApp Facebook and (partially) Twitter...

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Re:You can change your number by Vinnl on Wednesday February 09, 2022 @06:33AM (#30271486)

I don't see why that matters? (Especially given that Signal has far fewer users and presumably higher attrition than those other platforms.) If things can be better, than it would be great if they were.

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Re:You can change your number by WallowingInShit on Tuesday February 08, 2022 @10:46AM (#30259775)

This is bad design. Why excuse bad design? When I send a text message and it doesn't arrive, my messaging app lets me know. With Signal, this is a step backward.

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Re:You can change your number by remram on Tuesday February 08, 2022 @12:44PM (#30261657)

You only know if your SMS fails to send, not if the receiving party has deleted their messaging app, broken their phone, or changed number.

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Re:You can change your number by vel0city on Tuesday February 08, 2022 @11:50AM (#30260795)

> When I send a text message and it doesn't arrive, my messaging app lets me know

Signal does let you know, it never gets the delivered mark.

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Re:You can change your number by WallowingInShit on Wednesday February 09, 2022 @10:14AM (#30273534)

That's not letting me know, that's something I have to check.

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Re:You can change your number by guerrilla on Tuesday February 08, 2022 @12:24PM (#30261318)

I meant I check in Signal. It does indicate whether it's received or not and whether it's read or not.

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Re:You can change your number by shp0ngle on Tuesday February 08, 2022 @01:15AM (#30255451)

They can determine when did the user logged in last. Signal already tracks this.

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Re:You can change your number by remram on Tuesday February 08, 2022 @12:45PM (#30261675)

That sounds like it would have privacy concerns. I don't want everyone to know when I last was on my phone.

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