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Re:California Sheriff Free to Rob Armored Cars Money of Lega... by mikece on Monday February 07, 2022 @12:41PM (#30248213)
Why not just seize all cash from all armored cars regardless of what kind of business it is? I don't see the distinction from seizing the cash from a LEGAL marijuana business versus seizing it from Walmart. What law is being broken by the marijuana business or the cash-movers?
Re:California Sheriff Free to Rob Armored Cars Money of Lega... by ecf on Monday February 07, 2022 @12:54PM (#30248410)
This will happen as long as the ruling class is prevented from taking their cut of the pie due to it still being illegal at the federal level.

They’re mad and bothered that lower classes are able to establish marijuana business in select states, so they have their posse (police) do their bidding.

Re:California Sheriff Free to Rob Armored Cars Money of Lega... by foxyv on Monday February 07, 2022 @01:05PM (#30248588)
San Bernardino has been broke for years. They are paying most of the pensions for retired police so it's not a surprise they are pulling stuff like this. I guess they have the best police pension so most So. Cal. officers transfer there before retiring. Meanwhile, their city infrastructure looks like Steven King's "The Stand."
Re:California Sheriff Free to Rob Armored Cars Money of Lega... by tssva on Monday February 07, 2022 @01:43PM (#30249132)
There are no completely legal marijuana businesses in the US. All of them are in violation of federal law. This is why the money was transferred to a federal agency for the actual asset forfeiture.
Re:California Sheriff Free to Rob Armored Cars Money of Lega... by mikece on Monday February 07, 2022 @02:45PM (#30249956)
Congress doesn't have the authority to legislate on marijuana if it's grown, harvested, sold, and consumed/used all in the same state as the interstate commerce clause cannot be used. In California, several county sheriffs had publicly said that they would arrest DEA agents if they tried to enforce federal law in California. Historical precedent for this practice dates back to shorty before the civil war where the Milwaukee Sheriff arrested two US Marshall agents for kidnapping because they were trying to enforce the Fugitive Slave Act. This particular sheriff is flat-out committing theft and abusing his authority; he needs to go to jail for a very long time.
Re:California Sheriff Free to Rob Armored Cars Money of Lega... by sterlind on Monday February 07, 2022 @03:23PM (#30250498)
Gonzales vs. Raich held that the Commerce Clause lets Congress prohibit intrastate marijuana production. It's a messed up decision, but it's precedent now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonzales_v._Raich

Re:California Sheriff Free to Rob Armored Cars Money of Lega... by r2_pilot on Monday February 07, 2022 @03:18PM (#30250404)
Au contraire(and I don't agree with this reasoning), Congress granted itself this regulatory power because "if it's grown, harvested, sold, and consumed/used all in the same state", that affects other state commerce (since demand would be affected by the lack of import of product), and thus can be regulated via the commerce clause.
Re:California Sheriff Free to Rob Armored Cars Money of Lega... by klipt on Monday February 07, 2022 @03:50PM (#30250910)
If a non-US citizen consumes marijuana even in a "legal" state that makes them deportable and perpetually inadmissible to the US.

It's very much illegal at the federal level.

Re:California Sheriff Free to Rob Armored Cars Money of Lega... by mikece on Monday February 07, 2022 @04:22PM (#30251383)
Under a law that is in violation of the Enumerated Powers and Tenth Amendment. Federal Law only supersedes state or local law where the Constitution stipulates that it does.
Re:California Sheriff Free to Rob Armored Cars Money of Lega... by beerandt on Monday February 07, 2022 @06:13PM (#30252827)
I'm all for that, but that means a lot of other federal laws and regulations getting wiped from the books.

Which I think is a good thing, but many arguing this angle for marijuana legalization haven't fully considered the implications.

Nevertheless, it's not the current law as far as the courts are concerned, despite what the 10th amendment says. (I suspect the current SCOTUS wouldn't mind rectifying that, given the proper cases and opportunity.)

But in the current political climate, try saying the words "state's rights" without getting labeled a racist or extremist or anti-masker/vaxxer.

Re:California Sheriff Free to Rob Armored Cars Money of Lega... by FireBeyond on Monday February 07, 2022 @02:11PM (#30249535)
Why is the Sheriff doing it on the federal agency's behalf?

And why are his officers complaining that the truck is "light", and "what do you mean, that's all you got?"

Let's not pretend this is being done for any reason other than to enrich coffers.

Re:California Sheriff Free to Rob Armored Cars Money of Lega... by mikece on Monday February 07, 2022 @02:47PM (#30249982)
> Why is the Sheriff doing it on the federal agency's behalf?

1. Because his department (and possibly him specifically?) get a kickback from the federal agency on asset seizures.

2. To deny that he is simply pocketing the money for his department on his own authority.

Re:California Sheriff Free to Rob Armored Cars Money of Lega... by beerandt on Monday February 07, 2022 @06:18PM (#30252882)
The incentive might be the seized property, but the purpose is to disrupt the drug trade in cases where prosecution would be difficult or impossible.

Which it is technically accomplishing.