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Re:The EARN IT act is back, and it’s more dangerous than ever by bradleyjg on Saturday February 05, 2022 @05:54PM (#30227171)
Law enforcement and IC are starting with the assumption that they are entitled to the best access they’ve ever had. Yes, things are going dark that they had access to 20 years ago, but 20 years before that they didn’t have access because most of the conversations were happening face to face. At that point they needed to rely on traditional boots on the ground police/intelligence work instead of electronic backdoors. Why is it impossible for them to go back to doing things that way?
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Re:The EARN IT act is back, and it’s more dangerous than ever by nyolfen on Saturday February 05, 2022 @06:49PM (#30227626)
they have more funding, power, and technology to perform their jobs than at any point in history, but cry about it because they can't spy on the entire planet by default. never compromise because the demands will never end.
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Re:The EARN IT act is back, and it’s more dangerous than ever by emmelaich on Saturday February 05, 2022 @06:52PM (#30227639)
> Why is it impossible for them to go back to doing things that way?

Because symmetry. Criminals using e2ee are not going back.

Not to support the act, but your comment doesn't really address the issue.

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Re:The EARN IT act is back, and it’s more dangerous than ever by bradleyjg on Saturday February 05, 2022 @06:57PM (#30227683)
Why does that matter? Cops weren’t listening to those old face to face communications. That was practically impossible which is analogous to the technical impossibility of listening in on E2EE connections. Instead they were cracking cases in other ways (physical evidence, confidential sources, etc.)
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Re:The EARN IT act is back, and it’s more dangerous than ever by wizzwizz4 on Saturday February 05, 2022 @07:43PM (#30228031)
To play Devil's Advocate: people had to meet up for face-to-face communications, but they don't have to meet up for remote communication.
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Re:The EARN IT act is back, and it’s more dangerous than ever by bradleyjg on Saturday February 05, 2022 @09:36PM (#30228740)
That’s a true fact but why does it make traditional policing impossible?
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Re:The EARN IT act is back, and it’s more dangerous than ever by wizzwizz4 on Sunday February 06, 2022 @12:42PM (#30234832)
I don't think it does. We've had encrypted communications for centuries; cases have been cracked before without decoding those messages.
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Re:The EARN IT act is back, and it’s more dangerous than ever by zo1 on Sunday February 06, 2022 @04:43AM (#30230921)
What is "traditional policing" in your view?
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Re:The EARN IT act is back, and it’s more dangerous than ever by aspenmayer on Sunday February 06, 2022 @05:10AM (#30231060)
Whatever it is, it isn’t a dragnet.
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Re:The EARN IT act is back, and it’s more dangerous than ever by citruscomputing on Saturday February 05, 2022 @08:51PM (#30228470)
Does the devil need an advocate?
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Re:The EARN IT act is back, and it’s more dangerous than ever by wizzwizz4 on Sunday February 06, 2022 @02:16PM (#30235880)
The Catholic Church seems to think so, and they've got a notorious anti-Devil bias. It's useful to put forward arguments against things, even if you don't agree with them, because it helps to put into words why you don't agree with them.
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