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Re:Apple's privacy push cost Meta $10B by HWR_14 on Friday February 04, 2022 @02:59PM (#30212156)
First, it's not "all ads are evil". It's the spying and tracking of ads that most people oppose.

Second, how is this a "balanced ideological fight" counterargumnet. Let's say I oppose Facebook ads as invasion of privacy (and I do). A person on the internet used Facebook ads to make money. Those are contrary why? It's not like I'm sitting here and was like "oh, now that someone made money on the ads, I'm totally in favor of them."

Re:Apple's privacy push cost Meta $10B by clarge1120 on Friday February 04, 2022 @10:57PM (#30217155)
If you have an income it’s because of economic activity, most likely derived from advertising.

I pay for YouTube Premium to avoid ads because I hate ads. But I also like robust economic activity. So, I’m happy to pay a fee instead of seeing ads.

Re:Apple's privacy push cost Meta $10B by HWR_14 on Saturday February 05, 2022 @05:08PM (#30226722)
> If you have an income it’s because of economic activity, most likely derived from advertising.

That reasoning can be used to justify any shitty practice.

Concerned about global warming? If you have an income it’s because of economic activity, most likely derived from emitting carbon.

Concerned about human rights in China? If you have an income it’s because of economic activity, most likely derived from trade with China.

Concerned about American workers getting fired for unionizing? If you have an income it’s because of economic activity, most likely derived from interacting with sales behemoths like Walmart and Amazon.

Therefore, I suggest you come up with a better rational for bad things. Or frankly stop trying to justify them. That also works.

Re:Apple's privacy push cost Meta $10B by dwaite on Saturday February 05, 2022 @12:39AM (#30217998)
> I pay for YouTube Premium to avoid ads because I hate ads. But I also like robust economic activity. So, I’m happy to pay a fee instead of seeing ads.

Yep, and I drastically limited watching YouTube on-site because their advertising became untenably invasive. The last straw was when they tried to get me to pay money to back-track how much they made their product suck, rather than actually providing me value over the out-of-box experience a few years prior.

Re:Apple's privacy push cost Meta $10B by jen20 on Saturday February 05, 2022 @09:02AM (#30221051)
Likewise - I am not entirely opposed to paying for Google products. I pay for G-Suite, for example (for now). However there is not a hope in hell I will ever pay for YouTube - they go out of their way to disable native OS features like Picture in Picture video, and the experience of ads is so shitty I’ve just added it to Pi-hole and moved on.

There’s some good content on there, but it’s not good enough to subject myself to that, or to reward such behavior with money.