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Re:Amazon Pip Horror Story by Fiahil on Friday February 04, 2022 @10:15AM (#30207750)
Hold on, 700€ x 215 days worked (you don't count vacation time when freelance) = 150 500. Now, give it half to the taxman, and you're left with 75 250€ / year.

And that's without the expenses, extra healthcare coverage, insurance etc.

So pretty average when you considering that junior developer salaries are within this reach in EU capitals.

Re:Amazon Pip Horror Story by dunefox on Friday February 04, 2022 @04:34PM (#30213586)
> junior developer salaries are within this reach in EU capitals.

Junior developers make 75.000€ after taxes? They make about 50 - 60.000€ BEFORE taxes.

Re:Amazon Pip Horror Story by vshade on Thursday February 10, 2022 @09:34AM (#30286519)
Even less depending on the capital, 60k before taxes is more of a senior level in the Iberian peninsula.
Re:Amazon Pip Horror Story by alistairSH on Friday February 04, 2022 @10:48AM (#30208306)
215 / 5 = 43 weeks of work. 9 weeks vacation?

I used 4 weeks, and by my experience that's generous (not talking about paid leave - all the freelancers I know are workaholics and don't take much leave, but maybe that's a US thing).

5*48 = 240 days, which works out to around 84000 EUR. Or 120,000 EUR - 30%.

Regardless, 700 EUR/day seems in the ball-park for a generic all-around developer.

Re:Amazon Pip Horror Story by AitchEmArsey on Friday February 04, 2022 @12:50PM (#30210101)
Agreed. Some UK numbers for reference:

£500/day is the absolute minimum for developer/DevOps outside London, £600/day much more common and including the cheap end for London. Senior is more often £800/day. You don't see values above that advertised, but people do obviously negotiate higher for specialist work; I have seen a mainframe developer charging £1500/day (on the low end of his range). Anything higher than that has always been a large consultancy rather than a freelancer. In my specialist niche I'd be asking for £1500/day top-end, expecting £800-1200 with negotiation depending on flexibility.

Re:Amazon Pip Horror Story by nickkell on Friday February 04, 2022 @10:30AM (#30208029)
Even allowing that junior salaries reach this high (that's in the range for a senior in Berlin at least), that would be the PRE-TAX figure. Remove 40% (again, approximate taxes in Berlin, potentially more if you pay the "church" tax) and you've got 45150€, a significant difference.
Re:Amazon Pip Horror Story by Fiahil on Friday February 04, 2022 @11:59AM (#30209359)
Yes, of course, but everyone has to pay income, housing and a few other taxes regardless of employment status.