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Re:Amazon Pip Horror Story by duncangh on Friday February 04, 2022 @08:38AM (#30206599)
Lmao this is great because on my "virtual on-site" final round of interviews at Amazon, the fire alarm of the person who was interviewing me went off. She switched to audio on the call and continued to try to work through the little coding challenge as she was shouting implementation details above the echo-y wails of a fire alarm raging in a crowded stairwell. Baffled, concerned for her safety and bewildered by her priorities, I hung up and pretended the call had dropped. No offer. No interest
Re:Amazon Pip Horror Story by snowman-yelling on Friday February 04, 2022 @09:07AM (#30206901)
My apartments fire alarm went off during my virtual on-site with Amazon too. There was about 10 minutes left and the interviewer said I should go and he had what he needed. Got an offer the next day!
Re:Amazon Pip Horror Story by _fat_santa on Friday February 04, 2022 @09:13AM (#30206952)
Amazon vs Amazon on Blind
Re:Amazon Pip Horror Story by snowman-yelling on Friday February 04, 2022 @10:07AM (#30207647)
Exactly. I’ve been here for two years, not a long time by any means, and I don’t personally know a single instance of anyone getting pipped.

I’ve never felt pressured to work overtime, haven’t had to race to meet an unreasonable deadline, and I’ve been rated exceeds on both of the performance evals I’ve been though.

The Amazon I’ve experienced is much different than the one I read about before joining.

Re:Amazon Pip Horror Story by camtarn on Friday February 04, 2022 @11:39AM (#30209088)
It can be drastically different from team to team.

After I joined Amazon in 2007, I referred a friend from Uni who joined a few years later.

I had a fairly laid back experience - after a good start, I became depressed and burned out, but somehow none of my managers seemed to care all that much since I was at least getting some stuff done, until I finally got put on a PIP several years in - which I think was probably deserved, although the handling around it was crap. And even then, when that manager moved to a new team, my new manager told me I was doing fine and not to worry about it.

My friend, on the other hand, who was the most diligent and hard working of my entire friends group in Uni, was assigned to a different team a few desks over. She fell afoul of stack ranking (the idea that you should rank everybody in a team and fire the worst) and was pressured until she quit.

I also heard a bunch of horror stories from devs across the company - unreasonable deadlines, regular Sev-2s and firefighting when on-call, a manager evading blame for a disastrous project launch and dropping it all on one engineer.

I think the main problem that I saw was that there wasn't much training for managers on how to be a good manager, and bad managers never seemed to face consequences.

I finally quit after eight years (funnily enough, after ending up working for the manager who made my friend quit) and I'm a hell of a lot happier nowadays. Amusingly, I'm still facing tight deadlines and sometimes random overtime, but I have a great boss who is willing to fight against these things for me, and that makes a big difference.

Re:Amazon Pip Horror Story by AitchEmArsey on Friday February 04, 2022 @12:37PM (#30209920)
> evading blame for a disastrous project launch

Found the Timestream guy

Re:Amazon Pip Horror Story by coliveira on Friday February 04, 2022 @10:27AM (#30207980)
Every group is different. It depends on the manager, the priorities, the projects, etc. But I imagine you'll be thinking different in a few years.
Re:Amazon Pip Horror Story by actually_a_dog on Friday February 04, 2022 @11:02AM (#30208532)
So, here's an interesting question: I recently got an email from a recruiter for Amazon saying I could interview for whatever org and whatever team I wanted. What are some sane, reasonable teams? Which teams are the most insane and unreasonable?
Re:Amazon Pip Horror Story by coliveira on Friday February 04, 2022 @02:07PM (#30211426)
There is no easy way to answer this question. The best you can do is talk to people working on that group and ask the question. However, even with this knowledge there is no guarantee, because Amazon is always changing and doing reorgs, so what is a great group today can become a nightmare tomorrow.
Re:Amazon Pip Horror Story by wallscratch on Monday February 07, 2022 @06:04AM (#30243123)
It’s striking that every org and every team is hiring.
Re:Amazon Pip Horror Story by bambataa on Friday February 04, 2022 @02:39PM (#30211874)
Also keen to know this!
Re:Amazon Pip Horror Story by coliveira on Friday February 04, 2022 @10:25AM (#30207934)
This was probably a fire drill. The alarms sound off, everybody leaves the building at the same time, but it is just for training.
Re:Amazon Pip Horror Story by the_af on Friday February 04, 2022 @12:42PM (#30209992)
Assuming it was a fire drill -- back in the olden times before the new normal, when I worked at the office, fire drills were mandatory exercises. That's the whole point of them: you don't get to ignore them. We were always told in no unclear terms that we were expected to take part in the drill, no exceptions, and people even got told off if they took the time to shut down their computers or go back for backpacks or whatever, because "in a real fire there's no time for that".

I suppose people working in critical positions were cut some slack. I can't imagine doing interviews is one of those positions.

Re:Amazon Pip Horror Story by sydthrowaway on Friday February 04, 2022 @09:50AM (#30207418)
So you applied for the job just to shit on them?
Re:Amazon Pip Horror Story by largbae on Friday February 04, 2022 @09:52AM (#30207450)
It sounds like GP had learned enough about the culture from the interview.