Is it possible your area is not overwhelmed because vaccinations are required? Here's a medical system overwhelmed in part because vaccination rate is (was) so low: https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/coronavirus/article25438...

I believe the vaccines are a big part of why they're not overwhelmed now during the Omicron wave. But we achieved the bulk of our vaccination rate before mandates.

I’m struggling to understand your point, since we agree that vaccines are working to prevent hospital overflow. Is the issue the method of enforcement (show a card to eat at a restaurant)? Because I can also agree that it’s a little roundabout.

So...let everyone else get vaccinated and fix it, not me?

What is the burden that would make this a problem? If the typical narrative is to be believed the unvaccinated are in a much worse position, facing the dangers of terrible disease and death!

If there was no burden then the person would get vaccinated. I personally don’t believe there is a burden but they must.

I think they believe it’s up to everyone to decide if there is a burden (and a risk), for themselves.

Is it possible this rock provides effective protection against tigers?

> Where I live health systems are not overwhelmed. They were never overwhelmed even before the vaccines.

This is an interesting statement.

Where I live, one hospital 30 minutes in one direction was never overwhelmed. In fact, they had to fire people because they were so empty due to cancelling all optional procedures.

Another hospital 30 minutes the other direction had to place patients in offices, conference rooms, and tents in the parking lot.

So I guess the health system where I live was overwhelmed. Or it wasn't. Depending upon who you asked and/or the narrative you wanted to convey.

Yes this is an important observation. The bad things all happen, but they’re usually not everywhere at once. One grocery store has empty shelves, another one is better stocked. Makes it easy to look credible saying everything is fine, or everything is terrible.