Pity that Python did not embrace the Lisp features related to machine code generation.
Re:Running Lisp in Production (2020)
by agumonkey on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @03:15AM
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You mean having bytecode and native code ? maybe they can start that for 3.2+ .. surely it would be more interesting than optional type signatures :)
Yes.
Re:Running Lisp in Production (2020)
by agumonkey on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @07:22AM
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It's interesting, lisps, [o|oca]ml .. have often both, but somehow this practice never went mainstream.. even js got huge influx of money to push vm super fast but no native code practices.
I consider Java and .NET mainstream enough. :)
Re:Running Lisp in Production (2020)
by agumonkey on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @09:08AM
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traumatic selective memory at work
Re:Running Lisp in Production (2020)
by mbrodersen on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @06:45PM
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I agree. And I think that the constant BS claims of certain Lisp advocates actually damages the Lisp community. Especially the silly “I am smarter because I use Lisp” claims you often see in Lisp articles. My answer is always: OK great. Why don’t you instead first build some impressive stuff in Lisp and then show us how Lisp made it possible for you to build it 10x faster. Then you might actually make people believe you. Especially given that pretty much all successful software out there is written in (or run on top of) C/C++.
Re:Running Lisp in Production (2020)
by medo-bear on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @07:20PM
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this is just personal taste but i think that GNU Emacs blows any other software ever written out of every universe that ever existed :)
Re:Running Lisp in Production (2020)
by mbrodersen on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @09:41PM
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Maybe because it is written in C? Hehehehe :)
Re:Running Lisp in Production (2020)
by medo-bear on Thursday February 03, 2022 @12:17AM
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its written in emacs lisp and c. most of the code base is in the former :)
Re:Running Lisp in Production (2020)
by mbrodersen on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @08:06PM
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Ask Vi lovers if they agree :)
Re:Running Lisp in Production (2020)
by medo-bear on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @08:18PM
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of course they do. they just chose evil-mode
Re:Running Lisp in Production (2020)
by mbrodersen on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @08:22PM
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Hahaha you are funny.
On a fun note: The old guard of Common Lisp (like Norvig IIRC) was very fond of Python when it hit mainstream because for them it had a whole lot of the feature set that lisp had which other popular languages lacked.
[disclaimer: I am a die-hard Lisp and Clojure fan but the other fans just make me cringe at times]