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Re:Cruise is opening driverless cars to the public in San Fr... by c0nsumer on Tuesday February 01, 2022 @11:00PM (#30173533)
That doesn't help with end of service life, it helps with uneven wear.

If all the tires wear evenly this detection won't help.

Re:Cruise is opening driverless cars to the public in San Fr... by toomuchtodo on Tuesday February 01, 2022 @11:01PM (#30173542)
Was editing my comment while you were commenting (removed service life, as software won’t detect dry rot or other defects undetectable from wheel speed measurements). Assuming tires wear evenly, you could still detect the change in rotation speed over time due to tread wear.
Re:Cruise is opening driverless cars to the public in San Fr... by rightbyte on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @03:39AM (#30175213)
You can detect 3mm radius decrease? I would say no.

Remember that wheel slip depends on surface properties.

Re:Cruise is opening driverless cars to the public in San Fr... by glbeaty on Thursday February 03, 2022 @03:30AM (#30190072)
3mm is about a third of total tread depth, and 1% of the tire's radius. Why wouldn't this be detectable? ABS sensors tend to have 48-tooth tone rings and there's no reason why you couldn't vastly increase this number if you wanted.

Longitudinal tire slip is caused by thrust in excess of the tire's grip, which is a function of slip speed among many other things. Grip peaks with a mild amount of slip, but slip isn't the norm outside of racing. Mild acceleration produces zero slip.

Lateral slip angle is a different story.

Re:Cruise is opening driverless cars to the public in San Fr... by rightbyte on Thursday February 03, 2022 @04:19AM (#30190419)
The slip is only 0 when free rolling by definition of the rolling radius.

You also have the rolling radius depend on load (car mass) and tire pressure.

I don't say I know it is impossible, but it feels like there is way to much noise.

Re:Cruise is opening driverless cars to the public in San Fr... by bluGill on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @09:49AM (#30178280)
I think you can. Remember you have a lot of time to work with. The car already knows when wheels are slipping to discard that data. You just pick a time when you are going straight on a nice somewhat flat dry surface going a consistent speed and measure then, cars do that all the time even on curvy mountain roads you will find plenty of such stretches and you only need to measure every few hours.
Re:Cruise is opening driverless cars to the public in San Fr... by glbeaty on Thursday February 03, 2022 @03:22AM (#30190029)
It does if you have a GPS speed input. In the race car daq I use I can see speed differentials due to tire wear.

A typical 17" tire has a radius of 318 mm and 8 mm of tread. So a bald tire is 2.5% smaller than a new one.