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Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by rantfoil on Thursday September 11, 2008 @02:53PM (#301641)
Dropbox is the first and only sync / storage solution of its kind that ACTUALLY WORKS. Tremendous job, and I love using Dropbox every day.
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by crescendo on Thursday September 11, 2008 @02:58PM (#301646)
Same here. Dropbox is the best YC-backed product to date, IMO.
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by fallentimes on Thursday September 11, 2008 @04:03PM (#301708)
Ahem, TicketStumbler.

Just kidding, I'm in love with their service and am a very happy user. They're backed by Sequoia and some other BSDs.

How the hell do you make something boring like file storage viral and cool? I don't know but Dropbox just did it.

Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by AndyKelley on Friday September 12, 2008 @04:48PM (#302680)
How is it viral?
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by fallentimes on Saturday September 13, 2008 @07:40AM (#303069)
Not only have I enjoyed it so much I've told countless friends about dropbox, it also auto invites your friends to join when you share a file with them. That's in part why they already had over 100,000 beta testers before even launching.
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by vlad on Thursday September 11, 2008 @07:38PM (#301903)
And rejected from YC the first time, if I remember correctly.
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by avibryant on Friday September 12, 2008 @01:20AM (#302142)
Agreed. It's the second one (after reddit) I will actually use, and the first I would pay for - anyone know what pricing will be for going beyond 2GB?
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by avibryant on Friday September 12, 2008 @01:22AM (#302146)
Answering my own question: $10/mo for 50GB. Not bad.
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by staunch on Thursday September 11, 2008 @08:36PM (#301954)
Your comment really reminds me of this:

"...What you want to be able to say about technology is: it just works. How often do you say that now?" -- http://www.paulgraham.com/ideas.html

A damn good sign for Dropbox methinks.

Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by netcan on Friday September 12, 2008 @12:07AM (#302090)
What makes something a winner is often very small. What makes that essay a winner is this:

You can't just say "Err" to the user of a stove.

Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by thorax on Thursday September 11, 2008 @04:53PM (#301755)
I love Dropbox, but I've also used Foldershare across all my PCs (and friend's PCs) for years now and it's been great.

I prefer Dropbox now (it's superior), but I never felt like this wasn't something I didn't have access to beforehand.

Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by jodrellblank on Friday September 12, 2008 @05:20AM (#302264)
What do you mean "of its kind"? Windows Offline Files and briefcases actually work. Volume Shadow Copy actually works. WebFolders actually work.

They're just not as well connected or cross platform.

Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by rantfoil on Saturday September 13, 2008 @04:09PM (#303310)
Rsync works too. But I'm not going to ask my Dad to install it.
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by jkent on Friday September 12, 2008 @08:40AM (#302341)
I've been using Syncplicity, which offers similar functionality, and that works too. Clearly, their PR isn't as good - it's been launched for some time.
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by tuukkah on Thursday September 11, 2008 @06:09PM (#301828)
I find this misleading at best: http://www.getdropbox.com/install?os=linux

It's here, it's open source, and it's free software! Dropbox for Linux is finally available and ready for your everyday use.

Further down the page:

-- dropboxd is a per-user closed-source daemon process that makes sure your $HOME/Dropbox directory is properly synchronized.

Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by Herring on Thursday September 11, 2008 @08:11PM (#301932)
Along these lines, I want to know what the catch is. Where/how are the files stored, how do they stop us from going past 2gb, is there anything in place for when the RIAA/MPAA come calling? More critical replies please, YC.
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by immad on Thursday September 11, 2008 @07:39PM (#301905)
They seem to be referring to Linux :)
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by tzury on Friday September 12, 2008 @08:19AM (#302330)
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by tuukkah on Friday September 12, 2008 @08:24AM (#302335)
That's not Dropbox, that's the Nautilus integration. That is, you keep the essential parts proprietary and closed, and open the parts where you hope others to do work for you. It's not the oddest strategy, but it doesn't live up to the promise either.

On the other hand, if you freed the daemon too, you could get included in Linux distributions, and people would know what all Dropbox is doing on their computers.

Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by josefresco on Thursday September 11, 2008 @03:51PM (#301688)
"It started in Boston’s South Station in November 2006 where one night, while waiting for the Chinatown bus to New York, I wrote the first lines of code of what eventually became Dropbox. I had forgotten my USB drive at home and was frustrated that I couldn’t get any 'real work' done."

Ha, classic 'founder story' as discussed 7 days ago: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=294663

Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by j2d2 on Thursday September 11, 2008 @06:24PM (#301839)
It's funny because dropbox wouldn't help him on a bus... :)
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by cdr on Friday September 12, 2008 @12:12PM (#302518)
Not like there's not mobile wireless, and there's even buses with wifi.
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by rokhayakebe on Thursday September 11, 2008 @03:32PM (#301672)
DropBox a winner? Xobni a winner? How did they do it?

The recipe is to not rush your product out there. I think most entrepreneurs do not understand "Release Early, Update Daily, Weekly, Monthly". Sometimes releasing early can work against you. Be patient.

Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by KrisJordan on Thursday September 11, 2008 @05:00PM (#301763)
DropBox did release early, though, didn't they? Just not publicly. My understanding was they did iterate a lot with early testers.
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by mattmaroon on Thursday September 11, 2008 @06:09PM (#301826)
I know some people who have early clients installed that they can't get rid of :)
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by tdavis on Thursday September 11, 2008 @03:53PM (#301689)
I routinely forget I even have Dropbox because it gets out of my way so damn perfectly.

Amazing job. And thank you most of all for the "undo" feature. I'm not saying that one day Dan accidently deleted all of our files, but you know, hypothetically.

Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by fallentimes on Thursday September 11, 2008 @06:12PM (#301831)
Livingston did it.
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by tdavis on Thursday September 11, 2008 @07:28PM (#301890)
Don't blame this on poor, sweet Livingston you knave!
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by Hexstream on Friday September 12, 2008 @06:20PM (#302760)
Makes me giggle when I remember Joel's rant (http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2008/05/01.html):

"Since 1988 many prominent architecture astronauts have been convinced that the biggest problem to solve is synchronization.

[...]

When did the first sync web sites start coming out? 1999? There were a million versions. xdrive, mydrive, idrive, youdrive, wealldrive for ice cream. Nobody cared then and nobody cares now, because synchronizing files is just not a killer application. I'm sorry. It seems like it should be. But it's not.

[...]

this so called synchronization problem is just not an actual problem, it's a fun programming exercise that you're doing because it's just hard enough to be interesting but not so hard that you can't figure it out."

You show him!

Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by Bluem00 on Saturday September 13, 2008 @10:22AM (#303116)
He seems to have embraced it, regardless of his earlier opinions on the subject: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2008/09/11b.html
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by aidanf on Friday September 12, 2008 @03:28AM (#302220)
You should add a link to your main site on your blog. I arrived on the blog from the HN link having no idea what Dropbox is or what it does. I had to manually edit the url to get to the main page to find out what it does. Lots of users would be too lazy to do that.
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by thalur on Friday September 12, 2008 @08:51AM (#302352)
Snap. Also, the tour thing doesn't load on the PCs here at work (probably the firewall), so I still don't know what it is! The site could do with a bit of simple plain boring old html text which tells us poor people behind firewalls what all the fuss is about :)
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by thedob on Thursday September 11, 2008 @03:55PM (#301693)
I'd like to emphasize how well Dropbox works as a collaborative tool. Never having to attach and download shared files from email is a great help in staying organized.

A co-worker can simply shoot you an IM or shout across the office that a document has been updated, and it's already on your machine ready to be opened.

I hope people don't get this confused with a source code repository though, as it definitely isn't optimal for working on shared source code. Stick with documents, images, and media, and you'll be fine.

Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by immad on Thursday September 11, 2008 @04:17PM (#301718)
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by mrtron on Thursday September 11, 2008 @03:04PM (#301649)
I have been using it for quite a few months and am officially impressed with the stability of the app. This is a good time to remember to backup - I will be saving some important photos immediately!

The only complaint I have is that it does not make explicitly clear (to me) what folders are public.

Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by brlewis on Thursday September 11, 2008 @04:53PM (#301756)
Is there an API such that an automated service could detect that someone shared a folder with it? Failing that, is there a Linux command-line client?
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by sireat on Friday September 12, 2008 @07:55AM (#302318)
First impressions: Very positive

Dropbox will probably take over gmail as my primary file storage on the go... ;)

Now, one question though, is Dropbox smart enough to only access network when I am actually doing anything with it(ie transfering files from/to Dropbox), or will it occasionally do weird sync type of things even when I am not using it(but have Dropbox folder open on desktop)?

Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by JesseAldridge on Friday September 12, 2008 @05:39AM (#302272)
Weird issue with the website: On this page: http://www.getdropbox.com/install?os=linux if I move my mousewheel while the cursor is over that ascii dropbox on the right my cpu usage jumps to 100% and Firefox hangs for a few seconds. Using Firefox 3.0.1 on Ubuntu 8.04.
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by whacked_new on Thursday September 11, 2008 @03:59PM (#301702)
I can't wait to sign up... but would really like to see encryption. Is this on the todo shortlist? (third time asking!)
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by aston on Thursday September 11, 2008 @04:21PM (#301723)
I think if you're actually interested in encryption, your best bet is actually not to wait on us to help you with it. If we're cooperating with you to encrypt your data, it's by definition not secure. A number of security-conscious users use us combined with TrueCrypt volumes.
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by tlrobinson on Thursday September 11, 2008 @07:23PM (#301884)
I see a couple ways you could introduce encryption securely.

1. At the very least, encrypt data being transfered using SSL, to prevent sniffing on WiFi and other public networks. Public key cryptography (like SSL) certainly can be secure, and does or doesn't require "cooperation" depending on your definition.

2. Your client could somehow integrate with something like TrueCrypt, but leave it up to the user to manage their keys.

Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by aston on Thursday September 11, 2008 @07:30PM (#301895)
We definitely do use encryption for both data transfer and storage. I didn't mean to imply that those things happen in the clear.

And yeah, hopefully we can find a way to help users along the path of managing their own keys.

Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by whacked_new on Thursday September 11, 2008 @04:25PM (#301730)
Haha, you win. I'm signing up. Thanks for the reply!
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by dcurtis on Thursday September 11, 2008 @05:14PM (#301778)
I use an encrypted Mac OS X disk image on my Dropbox. It works well.
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by tlrobinson on Thursday September 11, 2008 @07:24PM (#301887)
Every time you make any change to the image it needs to sync the whole thing, right? Seems wasteful to me, there must be a better solution.
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by whacked_new on Thursday September 11, 2008 @08:25PM (#301944)
My impression is that cperciva is after this problem, but the wait seems indefinite.
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by Herring on Thursday September 11, 2008 @08:03PM (#301923)
I really doubt it. The whole point to encryption is that the storage area doesn't know anything about your files.
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by dcurtis on Thursday September 11, 2008 @09:36PM (#301993)
It doesn't. It just syncs the byte changes.
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by tlrobinson on Friday September 12, 2008 @02:35AM (#302188)
But depending on the encryption scheme, a single byte changed in the unencrypted data can result in the entire encrypted image being different.
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by dcurtis on Friday September 12, 2008 @05:09AM (#302260)
It's 128-bit AES. I haven't had a problem yet.
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by Herring on Friday September 12, 2008 @05:22PM (#302712)
technically half the bits change, on average
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by dskhatri on Thursday September 11, 2008 @03:50PM (#301685)
I must say that while I was already impressed by the product, the blog post announcing the public launch was just as impressive. It is very well written and portrays the company as having great professionalism and aptitude. You don't see many startups doing this.

Finally, yay! for being an MIT startup :)

Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by extension on Friday September 12, 2008 @06:45AM (#302290)
There seems to be an explosion of these online storage services. They will become much more useful when/if there is a standardized API with per-app isolation and access control. The closest I've seen to that is Openomy:

http://api.openomy.com/2.0

Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by froo on Thursday September 11, 2008 @03:23PM (#301664)
This story has already been Dugg, and interesting to note there seems to be people signing up to Digg just to badmouth dropbox and plug sugarsync.

eg http://digg.com/users/supersaucer

EDIT - PS, love dropbox guys, good work!

Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by netcan on Friday September 12, 2008 @01:30AM (#302153)
Is this an intended use: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2008/09/11b.html ?

BTW, he's right about the URL. Wonder how much the squatters want for it?

Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by truebosko on Thursday September 11, 2008 @02:59PM (#301647)
That's awesome. I finally got the invite a week or so ago and I couldn't be happier. I already got 3 of my friends on it as well because it just WORKS. Beautiful
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by adamt on Friday September 12, 2008 @08:45AM (#302346)
I've use jungledisk and MobileMe/iDisk, but on seeing this story this morning I thought I'd give dropbox a try, and I was blown away by how well it 'just worked'. Things like sharing, proper diffs, public folders all done properly and simply. Really need Mac Finder integration. I'm a convert!

Shame that someone else has the dropbox.com domain though ...

Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by KrisJordan on Thursday September 11, 2008 @05:02PM (#301765)
Congrats on the release! Just got an invite yesterday and believe this is a truly great product that provides end-users a beautiful experience.
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by jonknee on Thursday September 11, 2008 @04:41PM (#301742)
Fantastic! Now if I could only get the Linux app to work with my Aspire One I'll be in heaven (libgio-2.0.so.0 is a missing dependency).
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by jaymstr on Friday September 12, 2008 @11:19AM (#302459)
Looks pretty cool. I'm looking forward to using it. They're presentation at TC50 didn't go so hot though. I feel bad for the guy.
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by raju on Thursday September 11, 2008 @03:31PM (#301671)
Great job guys! Dropbox is certainly one of the best products I have used, and you guys are definitely making it better...
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by chmike on Friday September 12, 2008 @05:24AM (#302268)
What about privacy ? Data is stored in clear text ? Where is it stored ?

How about making it possible to setup a private server ?

Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by btw0 on Thursday September 11, 2008 @09:27PM (#301985)
I will use it only if it has a command that will mount the dropbox somewhere in my filesystem, no nautilus.
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by clay on Thursday September 11, 2008 @11:30PM (#302069)
I started reading this thread and I thought, oh finally linux. But then I got really sad when I learned that nautilus was required :(
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by LogicHoleFlaw on Friday September 12, 2008 @11:05AM (#302438)
This smells like a perfect application of FUSE to me. Userspace filesystems rock.
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by nostrademons on Thursday September 11, 2008 @04:03PM (#301709)
W00t, congrats guys, and you're gonna make me regret that I didn't join back last February. :-)
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by Protophore on Thursday September 11, 2008 @04:24PM (#301727)
Congrats! I'll pass the word around and see if I can't get some more people to sign up.
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by rms on Thursday September 11, 2008 @03:55PM (#301692)
Highly recommended -- Dropbox provides an extremely rare, zen-like experience.
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by tectonic on Friday September 12, 2008 @08:18PM (#302827)
Does DropBox encrypt your files? I couldn't find anything on their site.
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by AndyKelley on Friday September 12, 2008 @06:22PM (#302761)
The tutorial video is great. One of the files was named TPS Report.doc.
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by jodrellblank on Friday September 12, 2008 @05:16AM (#302262)
"Sometimes you need your files on the run, and we were amazed that no one had made it easy"

What? Never heard of offline files, briefcases, SSH/FTP/SFTP/Web/WebDAV servers, Sharepoint, Groove...? (or any of millions of online file repositories?)

Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by LogicHoleFlaw on Friday September 12, 2008 @11:03AM (#302436)
Keyword being "easy."
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by jodrellblank on Friday September 12, 2008 @07:44PM (#302806)
That seems an odd keyword for the sort of person capable of writing dropbox and for a site like HN which revels in arguments about what kind of threading mechanisms are preferable.

I don't suppose I'd win any favor for saying Offline Folders - you logoff your domain, they sync, you logon, they sync again. It isn't any effort once it's setup. Not even browsing to a webpage or entering a password.

Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by nailer on Saturday September 13, 2008 @03:42AM (#303014)
a) Home users don't have Windows domains

b) Nor can they set up offline folders easily

Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by ttol on Thursday September 11, 2008 @02:31PM (#301617)
congrats (again) drew!
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by ryanspahn on Thursday September 11, 2008 @07:09PM (#301873)
Congrats and dugg!

Is a domain name change in the future? Drop the word get?

Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by bradgessler on Thursday September 11, 2008 @04:45PM (#301747)
This is awesome; exactly what I've been looking for.

Congrats on the launch!

Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by netcan on Friday September 12, 2008 @01:20AM (#302143)
I liked this :

Now with lots of AJAX!

Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by nazgulnarsil on Thursday September 11, 2008 @08:58PM (#301967)
this seems like an easy backup solution for a small business.
Re:Dropbox finally launches to the public (YC summer 07) by fallentimes on Thursday September 11, 2008 @04:01PM (#301705)
Love it.