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Re:Adblocking people and non-adblocking people experience a ... by endominus on Monday January 31, 2022 @01:34PM (#30152025)
Website owners no longer have a choice. Brave is incentivized to add ads to otherwise ad-free websites, and apparently does so as Matthew Butterick complains about; https://practicaltypography.com/the-cowardice-of-brave.html
Re:Adblocking people and non-adblocking people experience a ... by BrendanEich on Monday January 31, 2022 @02:57PM (#30153379)
We don't and never have put ads in publisher pages. It's not ethical without site consent and our users don't want ads in baseline Brave.

If Brave users opt into Brave Rewards for private user ads in push notifications (which, contra Butterick, do not belong to any page they might be near or above; they belong to the user's inventory, same as new tabs and unrelated windows of all kinds), we still wouldn't put ads in pages without both publisher and extra user consent (too many users still wouldn't want in-page ads, even if opted into user push notification ads).

HN is full of made up nonsense about Brave, in spite of all the hackers here who can verify our open source, network behavior, etc. etc. This site has seen better days.

Re:Adblocking people and non-adblocking people experience a ... by tryptophan on Monday January 31, 2022 @04:04PM (#30154322)
Oh hello! I recently tried brave and was relatively impressed. BAT is also an interesting idea, and I want to see it succeed!

However, I also had negative opinions of it like many people here before I really dug into it. I think your marketing really needs some work. I don't exactly know what it is - it might not even be your fault. The negative view of crypto many have has been associated with it. I would remove all mentions of crypto from your website. If people really want to know how the tokens work, they can go into the documentation. Having the word crypto on your landing page does you no good.

Re:Adblocking people and non-adblocking people experience a ... by 1shooner on Monday January 31, 2022 @02:54PM (#30153316)
But you're not selling ads. The user has opted-in to seeing spamware that gives them OS-level notifications, right? Is this new? I guess I don't see the specific impact on web content producers.
Re:Adblocking people and non-adblocking people experience a ... by pl0x on Monday January 31, 2022 @01:50PM (#30152315)
Brave is the wolves in sheeps clothing. I won't be surprised in the future if we learn Brave was using their browser and our data for shady things.
Re:Adblocking people and non-adblocking people experience a ... by BrendanEich on Monday January 31, 2022 @03:00PM (#30153420)
Why don't you go prove it by checking our code and runtime network behavior? We pay bug bounties through hackerone.com/brave.

Talk is cheap, especially stories that don't pass any kind of smell test: we would not take our life into our hands by collecting any user data, when it's easy to discover that for real hackers.

https://brave.com/data covers our data policies for baseline and optional stuff.